1 00:05:02,230 --> 00:04:58,310 now i am unmuted 2 00:05:04,629 --> 00:05:02,240 what a historic day 3 00:05:06,710 --> 00:05:04,639 the potential for historic day for its 4 00:05:09,749 --> 00:05:06,720 historic day as long as everything goes 5 00:05:10,790 --> 00:05:09,759 okay so we're that close to having 6 00:05:22,310 --> 00:05:10,800 a 7 00:05:25,029 --> 00:05:22,320 looks into 8 00:05:26,870 --> 00:05:25,039 health related effects and maybe reverse 9 00:05:29,590 --> 00:05:26,880 engineering of craft we may have 10 00:05:31,350 --> 00:05:29,600 captured and exploited 11 00:05:34,550 --> 00:05:31,360 um so 12 00:05:35,749 --> 00:05:34,560 my first i saw it this morning i got up 13 00:05:37,189 --> 00:05:35,759 the dog 14 00:05:38,390 --> 00:05:37,199 who was here 15 00:05:40,629 --> 00:05:38,400 was howling 16 00:05:41,590 --> 00:05:40,639 um because he missed his mommy 17 00:05:48,150 --> 00:05:41,600 and 18 00:05:51,189 --> 00:05:48,160 a summary of what was going on with the 19 00:05:52,550 --> 00:05:51,199 ndaa and i was like 20 00:05:54,629 --> 00:05:52,560 this is it 21 00:05:55,990 --> 00:05:54,639 really this is the ndaa there's nothing 22 00:05:58,150 --> 00:05:56,000 in it and then somebody's like no that's 23 00:05:59,270 --> 00:05:58,160 the summary i'm like oh okay so i read 24 00:06:01,270 --> 00:05:59,280 it i'm like 25 00:06:03,110 --> 00:06:01,280 it's pretty good i mean it has a lot of 26 00:06:04,790 --> 00:06:03,120 things that gillibrand the gillibrand 27 00:06:06,950 --> 00:06:04,800 language is a lot of that is in the 28 00:06:08,550 --> 00:06:06,960 final version 29 00:06:10,550 --> 00:06:08,560 the one thing that's not in there which 30 00:06:12,710 --> 00:06:10,560 i was disappointed in in 31 00:06:14,950 --> 00:06:12,720 is the 32 00:06:16,950 --> 00:06:14,960 civilian side 33 00:06:20,550 --> 00:06:16,960 where they would have you know 34 00:06:22,150 --> 00:06:20,560 various civilian organizations involved 35 00:06:25,670 --> 00:06:22,160 and 36 00:06:27,749 --> 00:06:25,680 that sucks but i mean 37 00:06:29,350 --> 00:06:27,759 we take as somebody told me recently 38 00:06:30,629 --> 00:06:29,360 that we take what we can get this is a 39 00:06:32,070 --> 00:06:30,639 pretty big deal 40 00:06:33,909 --> 00:06:32,080 and um 41 00:06:35,590 --> 00:06:33,919 brian i'll bring i'll bring up brian 42 00:06:37,990 --> 00:06:35,600 bender's tweet later he had something 43 00:06:39,670 --> 00:06:38,000 that was really encouraging 44 00:06:41,510 --> 00:06:39,680 um in the meantime if you guys have any 45 00:06:43,590 --> 00:06:41,520 questions 46 00:06:46,550 --> 00:06:43,600 i will take some but 47 00:06:49,670 --> 00:06:46,560 i mean a lot of this is new to me 48 00:06:51,510 --> 00:06:49,680 as far as the specific details um 49 00:06:54,070 --> 00:06:51,520 well actually it's not that new it's 50 00:06:57,110 --> 00:06:54,080 basically the gillibrand language 51 00:06:59,029 --> 00:06:57,120 co-sponsored by rubio and gallego 52 00:07:00,870 --> 00:06:59,039 that's what douglas dean johnson's been 53 00:07:03,909 --> 00:07:00,880 covering this for a while he called it 54 00:07:06,790 --> 00:07:04,790 the 55 00:07:08,070 --> 00:07:06,800 gillibrand 56 00:07:11,510 --> 00:07:08,080 rubio 57 00:07:13,110 --> 00:07:11,520 gallego so gag yeah and i'm gonna read 58 00:07:14,469 --> 00:07:13,120 his article because it's really good i 59 00:07:16,390 --> 00:07:14,479 don't know if i'll read all of it but 60 00:07:18,230 --> 00:07:16,400 you guys feel free to jump in 61 00:07:20,629 --> 00:07:18,240 and if there's any issues with sound let 62 00:07:22,950 --> 00:07:20,639 me know 63 00:07:26,070 --> 00:07:22,960 i just need to pull up his article on a 64 00:07:30,710 --> 00:07:28,629 and i did get some private 65 00:07:33,110 --> 00:07:30,720 messages 66 00:07:35,990 --> 00:07:33,120 basically saying this is a really good 67 00:07:37,670 --> 00:07:36,000 thing we take what we can get 68 00:07:39,510 --> 00:07:37,680 christopher mellon and louis lozando 69 00:07:41,189 --> 00:07:39,520 have been breaking their ass and other 70 00:07:44,150 --> 00:07:41,199 people behind the scenes so and they 71 00:07:46,869 --> 00:07:44,160 need to get credit for this 72 00:07:48,790 --> 00:07:46,879 and of course people are still 73 00:07:50,629 --> 00:07:48,800 questioning their motives 74 00:07:53,430 --> 00:07:50,639 i'm not one of them 75 00:07:55,990 --> 00:07:53,440 so let me let me share the um 76 00:07:57,430 --> 00:07:56,000 the article by doug 77 00:07:58,950 --> 00:07:57,440 and i'll go through it because it's 78 00:08:00,469 --> 00:07:58,960 really good 79 00:08:02,469 --> 00:08:00,479 and if you're bored with me reading and 80 00:08:03,990 --> 00:08:02,479 you've already already read it and need 81 00:08:07,909 --> 00:08:04,000 to leave 82 00:08:11,350 --> 00:08:09,670 so he starts off 83 00:08:13,430 --> 00:08:11,360 congress tells the pentagon and 84 00:08:17,029 --> 00:08:13,440 intelligence community 85 00:08:18,950 --> 00:08:17,039 ufos are serious business 86 00:08:20,390 --> 00:08:18,960 congress appears poised to enact 87 00:08:22,309 --> 00:08:20,400 legislation that would command the 88 00:08:24,230 --> 00:08:22,319 military and intelligence agencies to 89 00:08:26,469 --> 00:08:24,240 get a grip on quote 90 00:08:29,029 --> 00:08:26,479 unidentified aerial phenomena 91 00:08:31,029 --> 00:08:29,039 end quote and authorizes the resources 92 00:08:33,110 --> 00:08:31,039 required that's so important basically 93 00:08:35,350 --> 00:08:33,120 you'll see it's basically telling them 94 00:08:37,190 --> 00:08:35,360 you need you can get whatever resources 95 00:08:38,149 --> 00:08:37,200 you need to get this done 96 00:08:39,750 --> 00:08:38,159 so 97 00:08:41,750 --> 00:08:39,760 that's really important and as much as 98 00:08:43,909 --> 00:08:41,760 i'd rather this be civilian and somebody 99 00:08:46,389 --> 00:08:43,919 like jeff bezos or somebody 100 00:08:47,990 --> 00:08:46,399 elon musk funding funding it so we don't 101 00:08:50,230 --> 00:08:48,000 have the government involved i'd love 102 00:08:53,590 --> 00:08:50,240 that but we don't have that right now so 103 00:08:55,670 --> 00:08:53,600 yes this is a really good thing 104 00:08:57,990 --> 00:08:55,680 and i see comments so if you guys have 105 00:09:00,389 --> 00:08:58,000 questions just let me know hello to 106 00:09:01,910 --> 00:09:00,399 everybody julian bug my cousin john 107 00:09:03,590 --> 00:09:01,920 william 108 00:09:04,949 --> 00:09:03,600 james iandoli was here earlier i don't 109 00:09:07,350 --> 00:09:04,959 know if he's still here engaging the 110 00:09:09,030 --> 00:09:07,360 phenomenon um so i know some people have 111 00:09:11,590 --> 00:09:09,040 not read this because not everybody not 112 00:09:13,430 --> 00:09:11,600 everybody's on twitter so i'm people who 113 00:09:15,430 --> 00:09:13,440 are on twitter you have to remember 114 00:09:17,829 --> 00:09:15,440 there are a lot of people on youtube 115 00:09:20,949 --> 00:09:17,839 have no idea this is going on 116 00:09:23,910 --> 00:09:20,959 um oh it starts off that's a 117 00:09:25,590 --> 00:09:23,920 tic tac graphic made by dave beatty that 118 00:09:27,750 --> 00:09:25,600 dean put in his article to start out 119 00:09:29,910 --> 00:09:27,760 which is the tic tac cases which was the 120 00:09:31,269 --> 00:09:29,920 tic tac case which was investigated by 121 00:09:33,750 --> 00:09:31,279 ossap 122 00:09:37,750 --> 00:09:33,760 is a big reason why a lot of us are here 123 00:09:39,430 --> 00:09:37,760 one of the best ufo cases in a long time 124 00:09:42,630 --> 00:09:39,440 with all the witnesses but 125 00:09:46,070 --> 00:09:43,670 and 126 00:09:47,030 --> 00:09:46,080 mr david haith has joined us i don't 127 00:09:49,030 --> 00:09:47,040 know if i pronounced your name right 128 00:09:50,470 --> 00:09:49,040 david but anyway so 129 00:09:52,230 --> 00:09:50,480 dean's article's too good for me not to 130 00:09:53,590 --> 00:09:52,240 read at least some of it 131 00:09:55,590 --> 00:09:53,600 uh because there was stuff i didn't 132 00:09:57,110 --> 00:09:55,600 understand and he clarified a lot with 133 00:09:59,269 --> 00:09:57,120 the unveiling of 134 00:10:01,269 --> 00:09:59,279 today of legislative language already 135 00:10:04,710 --> 00:10:01,279 agreed on in negotiations between key 136 00:10:07,509 --> 00:10:04,720 lawmakers meeting privately it is likely 137 00:10:09,269 --> 00:10:07,519 this has not been approved yet it is 138 00:10:11,030 --> 00:10:09,279 likely that congress will soon send the 139 00:10:13,829 --> 00:10:11,040 department of defense and intelligence 140 00:10:16,870 --> 00:10:13,839 community a set of emphatic statutory 141 00:10:19,750 --> 00:10:16,880 commands regarding uap or ufos in common 142 00:10:21,829 --> 00:10:19,760 parlance the contact content of the 143 00:10:23,030 --> 00:10:21,839 language agreed upon right and i'll skip 144 00:10:24,389 --> 00:10:23,040 over some words to make it a little 145 00:10:26,389 --> 00:10:24,399 quicker 146 00:10:28,630 --> 00:10:26,399 the language agreed upon by 147 00:10:30,870 --> 00:10:28,640 negotiator negotiators from the senate 148 00:10:33,190 --> 00:10:30,880 and house of the house armed services 149 00:10:35,269 --> 00:10:33,200 committees 150 00:10:38,230 --> 00:10:35,279 being reported and analyzed in detail 151 00:10:40,230 --> 00:10:38,240 here for the first time anywhere yeah 152 00:10:41,670 --> 00:10:40,240 ducks on a donkey has done a really 153 00:10:43,910 --> 00:10:41,680 really good job 154 00:10:45,030 --> 00:10:43,920 yes happy birthday 80th birthday to 155 00:10:47,750 --> 00:10:45,040 david 156 00:10:49,350 --> 00:10:47,760 amazing i hope i get to 80 and when i 157 00:10:51,829 --> 00:10:49,360 get to 80 i'll be reading another 158 00:10:53,990 --> 00:10:51,839 article a new office has been 159 00:10:56,150 --> 00:10:54,000 implemented and we're getting close to 160 00:10:57,590 --> 00:10:56,160 finding out the truth 161 00:10:58,949 --> 00:10:57,600 hopefully not 162 00:11:03,269 --> 00:10:58,959 you never know 163 00:11:05,670 --> 00:11:03,279 um as excited as i am for this i i don't 164 00:11:08,389 --> 00:11:05,680 i don't have any you know 165 00:11:10,150 --> 00:11:08,399 expectations that this is it we are 166 00:11:13,030 --> 00:11:10,160 there we are going going to know the 167 00:11:15,190 --> 00:11:13,040 truth next year we're hybrids and the 168 00:11:17,670 --> 00:11:15,200 world is gonna know yeah i don't think 169 00:11:19,590 --> 00:11:17,680 that is happening it's a slow process as 170 00:11:21,430 --> 00:11:19,600 everybody's starting to see 171 00:11:23,190 --> 00:11:21,440 along the way people are getting excited 172 00:11:24,949 --> 00:11:23,200 and thinking that all of a sudden the 173 00:11:27,269 --> 00:11:24,959 total truth whatever that turns out to 174 00:11:28,790 --> 00:11:27,279 be is gonna be dropped on us 175 00:11:30,790 --> 00:11:28,800 i would love for that i just don't see 176 00:11:33,350 --> 00:11:30,800 it right now 177 00:11:36,150 --> 00:11:33,360 i am the ufo scribe i will i will speak 178 00:11:37,990 --> 00:11:36,160 as as if i'm in the king's court and i 179 00:11:40,870 --> 00:11:38,000 will become the jester 180 00:11:43,509 --> 00:11:40,880 the uap related provisions are included 181 00:11:45,590 --> 00:11:43,519 in the ndaa now being advanced under the 182 00:11:49,509 --> 00:11:45,600 bill designated blah blah blah i will 183 00:11:52,310 --> 00:11:49,519 sometimes refer to the text as the grg 184 00:11:53,190 --> 00:11:52,320 gillibrand rubio gallego 185 00:11:56,150 --> 00:11:53,200 so 186 00:11:58,470 --> 00:11:56,160 skip that 187 00:12:00,310 --> 00:11:58,480 so this is this is doug's take he goes i 188 00:12:01,590 --> 00:12:00,320 read the unwritten message underlying 189 00:12:03,190 --> 00:12:01,600 the bill language and i didn't invite 190 00:12:05,269 --> 00:12:03,200 him here i don't know if he can make it 191 00:12:07,030 --> 00:12:05,279 um 192 00:12:10,230 --> 00:12:07,040 this is how doug sees it 193 00:12:12,550 --> 00:12:10,240 we the congress have concluded that uap 194 00:12:15,110 --> 00:12:12,560 are serious business we want you to 195 00:12:17,269 --> 00:12:15,120 start treating it a serious business get 196 00:12:18,230 --> 00:12:17,279 your act together and get a grip on this 197 00:12:20,389 --> 00:12:18,240 problem 198 00:12:22,310 --> 00:12:20,399 expect to be held accountable 199 00:12:23,509 --> 00:12:22,320 and let's hope that's what happens 200 00:12:25,590 --> 00:12:23,519 because 201 00:12:26,870 --> 00:12:25,600 nothing nothing works unless they hold 202 00:12:28,790 --> 00:12:26,880 them accountable 203 00:12:30,389 --> 00:12:28,800 the dod just does not treat this 204 00:12:33,269 --> 00:12:30,399 seriously and nobody holds their feet to 205 00:12:35,350 --> 00:12:33,279 the fire this is a waste of time 206 00:12:37,430 --> 00:12:35,360 but the fact that 207 00:12:39,590 --> 00:12:37,440 senator gillibrand still surprises me i 208 00:12:41,750 --> 00:12:39,600 don't know if it was whatever was said 209 00:12:43,590 --> 00:12:41,760 in the briefings that she was part of or 210 00:12:45,509 --> 00:12:43,600 her staff was part of 211 00:12:46,389 --> 00:12:45,519 it was enough to convince her 212 00:12:47,910 --> 00:12:46,399 um 213 00:12:49,990 --> 00:12:47,920 that's one of the things i'll try to 214 00:12:52,629 --> 00:12:50,000 play one of the old older heinrich 215 00:12:55,110 --> 00:12:52,639 comments senator heinrich because he was 216 00:12:56,310 --> 00:12:55,120 the most forthcoming on his opinion on 217 00:12:58,150 --> 00:12:56,320 what we're dealing with with some of 218 00:13:00,230 --> 00:12:58,160 these ufos 219 00:13:02,069 --> 00:13:00,240 the measure incorporates a robust array 220 00:13:04,550 --> 00:13:02,079 of statutory provisions in essence 221 00:13:06,310 --> 00:13:04,560 commanding the dod and 222 00:13:08,389 --> 00:13:06,320 intelligence community to substantially 223 00:13:09,990 --> 00:13:08,399 elevate the priority coordination and 224 00:13:12,389 --> 00:13:10,000 resources that they devote to 225 00:13:13,910 --> 00:13:12,399 investigations of uap 226 00:13:16,230 --> 00:13:13,920 the legislation describes the 227 00:13:17,829 --> 00:13:16,240 overarching mission in unmistakable 228 00:13:20,150 --> 00:13:17,839 terms but also provides detailed 229 00:13:22,629 --> 00:13:20,160 mandates and funding authorities to 230 00:13:25,670 --> 00:13:22,639 advance uap investigations 231 00:13:27,750 --> 00:13:25,680 two key parts funding and investigations 232 00:13:29,750 --> 00:13:27,760 if they do investigations 233 00:13:31,990 --> 00:13:29,760 we're going to learn a lot of new things 234 00:13:34,310 --> 00:13:32,000 if they share that with us hopefully 235 00:13:35,990 --> 00:13:34,320 they will that should not be classified 236 00:13:37,670 --> 00:13:36,000 you know if we're not dealing with 237 00:13:40,230 --> 00:13:37,680 advanced tech that they want to reverse 238 00:13:42,310 --> 00:13:40,240 engineer they should share that 239 00:13:44,550 --> 00:13:42,320 that's why a lot of i think a lot of the 240 00:13:46,550 --> 00:13:44,560 if they can get all the privacy issues 241 00:13:48,069 --> 00:13:46,560 taken care of with awsap 242 00:13:50,550 --> 00:13:48,079 where a lot of the witnesses agreed to 243 00:13:52,470 --> 00:13:50,560 go on a record go speak off the record 244 00:13:54,550 --> 00:13:52,480 if they can get their names taken out 245 00:13:58,870 --> 00:13:54,560 that stuff should be public 246 00:14:03,829 --> 00:14:01,910 the legislation describes the over 247 00:14:06,150 --> 00:14:03,839 arching mission in unmistakable terms 248 00:14:07,990 --> 00:14:06,160 but also provides detailed mandates and 249 00:14:10,069 --> 00:14:08,000 funding authorities to advance uap 250 00:14:12,150 --> 00:14:10,079 investigations and provisions to require 251 00:14:15,590 --> 00:14:12,160 a measure of periodic partial public 252 00:14:17,829 --> 00:14:15,600 disclosure of future findings 253 00:14:20,550 --> 00:14:17,839 how partial is the question 254 00:14:23,030 --> 00:14:20,560 the negotiated ndaa has been packed into 255 00:14:26,230 --> 00:14:23,040 the shell of a numbered bill that has 256 00:14:28,389 --> 00:14:26,240 already passed the senate 257 00:14:31,269 --> 00:14:28,399 which may simplify the procedural steps 258 00:14:34,310 --> 00:14:31,279 in the senate even so a round of or two 259 00:14:35,670 --> 00:14:34,320 of legislative ping pong might occur as 260 00:14:38,230 --> 00:14:35,680 the senate and house work out a few 261 00:14:40,230 --> 00:14:38,240 remaining issues unrelated to uap 262 00:14:42,470 --> 00:14:40,240 this is important it is not likely that 263 00:14:44,470 --> 00:14:42,480 the uap language would be altered during 264 00:14:46,870 --> 00:14:44,480 such a ping pong 265 00:14:48,790 --> 00:14:46,880 during such during such any ping pong 266 00:14:50,710 --> 00:14:48,800 congress has enacted an ndaa for the 267 00:14:53,750 --> 00:14:50,720 past 60 consecutive years i think it's 268 00:14:56,389 --> 00:14:53,760 likely this ndaa with its historic uap 269 00:14:57,590 --> 00:14:56,399 related provisions will become law 270 00:14:59,829 --> 00:14:57,600 before 271 00:15:01,990 --> 00:14:59,839 christmas so people were asking yeah 272 00:15:03,750 --> 00:15:02,000 when well doug thinks before christmas 273 00:15:05,910 --> 00:15:03,760 which would be a great early christmas 274 00:15:08,629 --> 00:15:05,920 present for us um 275 00:15:11,269 --> 00:15:08,639 i think later on it says enacted 276 00:15:13,030 --> 00:15:11,279 i think halloween of 2022 is the 277 00:15:14,790 --> 00:15:13,040 deadline for it to be in place the 278 00:15:17,990 --> 00:15:14,800 office 279 00:15:21,350 --> 00:15:18,000 the noon the new negotiated nbaa text 280 00:15:23,350 --> 00:15:21,360 contains most but not all of the main 281 00:15:24,710 --> 00:15:23,360 major components of the gila brand rubio 282 00:15:26,629 --> 00:15:24,720 amendment 283 00:15:28,069 --> 00:15:26,639 senator gillibrand who sits on both the 284 00:15:29,990 --> 00:15:28,079 armed services and intelligence 285 00:15:31,430 --> 00:15:30,000 committees introduced and by the way 286 00:15:34,150 --> 00:15:31,440 those are the two committees that eric 287 00:15:35,590 --> 00:15:34,160 davis briefed um i don't know whatever 288 00:15:37,350 --> 00:15:35,600 what other what other briefings they 289 00:15:39,430 --> 00:15:37,360 received i'm sure it wasn't just eric 290 00:15:40,470 --> 00:15:39,440 davis um but it was enough for her to 291 00:15:41,910 --> 00:15:40,480 write language 292 00:15:43,670 --> 00:15:41,920 it was enough for either her or her 293 00:15:46,230 --> 00:15:43,680 staffer whatever they heard to write 294 00:15:49,189 --> 00:15:46,240 this language 295 00:15:51,189 --> 00:15:49,199 so it was it was introduced november 4th 296 00:15:52,949 --> 00:15:51,199 and doug was the first to write about it 297 00:15:55,829 --> 00:15:52,959 and he's written about it over the past 298 00:15:57,670 --> 00:15:55,839 few months it's quickly co-sponsored by 299 00:15:59,829 --> 00:15:57,680 senator marco rubio 300 00:16:01,590 --> 00:15:59,839 who was active last year uh in the 301 00:16:03,269 --> 00:16:01,600 senate and select intelligence committee 302 00:16:05,670 --> 00:16:03,279 putting the language in place where we 303 00:16:06,790 --> 00:16:05,680 finally had the ufo report june 25th of 304 00:16:09,430 --> 00:16:06,800 this year 305 00:16:11,269 --> 00:16:09,440 rubio was you know commenting to tmz and 306 00:16:13,110 --> 00:16:11,279 other other places he did interviews 307 00:16:14,870 --> 00:16:13,120 openly talking about this um sometimes 308 00:16:18,069 --> 00:16:14,880 he was really conservative sometimes he 309 00:16:21,990 --> 00:16:19,910 so gillibrand's 310 00:16:26,389 --> 00:16:22,000 proposal 311 00:16:28,310 --> 00:16:26,399 built on and greatly upgraded a set of 312 00:16:29,990 --> 00:16:28,320 uap related mandates that had earlier 313 00:16:32,949 --> 00:16:30,000 been incorporated into the house version 314 00:16:34,870 --> 00:16:32,959 of the ndaa by congressman ruben gallego 315 00:16:38,870 --> 00:16:34,880 of arizona so gallego yeah he's another 316 00:16:42,150 --> 00:16:40,629 gallego is chairman of the house armed 317 00:16:43,910 --> 00:16:42,160 services committee in committee's 318 00:16:46,710 --> 00:16:43,920 intelligence and special operations 319 00:16:48,790 --> 00:16:46,720 subcommittee a panel that had received a 320 00:16:52,389 --> 00:16:48,800 classified briefing from the uap task 321 00:16:55,189 --> 00:16:52,399 force on june 17 2021 322 00:16:58,949 --> 00:16:55,199 so i assume whatever he saw there 323 00:17:00,389 --> 00:16:58,959 convinced him to write that language 324 00:17:01,910 --> 00:17:00,399 the bill sailed through the house of 325 00:17:04,470 --> 00:17:01,920 reps without any challenge that 326 00:17:05,750 --> 00:17:04,480 gallego's uap language on september 23rd 327 00:17:08,630 --> 00:17:05,760 those are the three major players 328 00:17:11,829 --> 00:17:08,640 senator gillibrand senator rubio and 329 00:17:14,069 --> 00:17:11,839 congressman ruben gallego 330 00:17:16,069 --> 00:17:14,079 the strongest elements of the gila brand 331 00:17:17,750 --> 00:17:16,079 rubio amendment survived closed-door 332 00:17:20,069 --> 00:17:17,760 house senate negotiation sessions 333 00:17:23,350 --> 00:17:20,079 despite attempts by some elements of the 334 00:17:27,110 --> 00:17:23,360 pentagon bureaucracy to derail them 335 00:17:28,870 --> 00:17:27,120 the evil pentagon bureaucracy 336 00:17:30,390 --> 00:17:28,880 was susan goff involved in that well 337 00:17:32,549 --> 00:17:30,400 she's just a spokesperson but i don't 338 00:17:33,990 --> 00:17:32,559 know how much power she has but 339 00:17:40,230 --> 00:17:34,000 i wouldn't be surprised if she was kept 340 00:17:45,510 --> 00:17:42,549 however a provision that would have 341 00:17:47,510 --> 00:17:45,520 created an uh here it is a uap advisory 342 00:17:49,029 --> 00:17:47,520 committee made up mostly of civilians 343 00:17:51,430 --> 00:17:49,039 was br was dropped during the 344 00:17:53,669 --> 00:17:51,440 negotiations to my eye the victim of 345 00:17:55,750 --> 00:17:53,679 pentagon bureaucrats who privately but 346 00:17:58,150 --> 00:17:55,760 emphatically branded such an entity a 347 00:18:00,150 --> 00:17:58,160 security risk but basically they're like 348 00:18:01,510 --> 00:18:00,160 no you bring the civilian side in there 349 00:18:03,190 --> 00:18:01,520 they don't have the proper clearances 350 00:18:04,710 --> 00:18:03,200 you know stuff's going to leak it's not 351 00:18:06,070 --> 00:18:04,720 you know they get to share classified 352 00:18:08,150 --> 00:18:06,080 information 353 00:18:09,669 --> 00:18:08,160 that was their argument apparently uh 354 00:18:11,029 --> 00:18:09,679 and they used that to their advantage 355 00:18:12,789 --> 00:18:11,039 maybe they should have not put it in the 356 00:18:14,070 --> 00:18:12,799 language and then put it out brought it 357 00:18:16,310 --> 00:18:14,080 out later but i don't know if they could 358 00:18:18,070 --> 00:18:16,320 have done that legally i'm not sure how 359 00:18:19,909 --> 00:18:18,080 that works with language if you can add 360 00:18:22,630 --> 00:18:19,919 something later on i guess they'd have 361 00:18:26,950 --> 00:18:22,640 to vote on it i'm not sure anyway it was 362 00:18:29,110 --> 00:18:26,960 nixed so no civilian no sdu rich hoffman 363 00:18:30,470 --> 00:18:29,120 which really sucks but 364 00:18:31,669 --> 00:18:30,480 like i said we take what we can get for 365 00:18:33,029 --> 00:18:31,679 now 366 00:18:35,750 --> 00:18:33,039 in addition gillibrand's effort to 367 00:18:37,590 --> 00:18:35,760 determine what the pentagon's uap office 368 00:18:41,190 --> 00:18:37,600 will be called the most recent version 369 00:18:43,029 --> 00:18:41,200 which was called astro was not adopted 370 00:18:44,789 --> 00:18:43,039 leaving the nomenclature in the hands of 371 00:18:46,630 --> 00:18:44,799 the secretary of defense and his 372 00:18:47,350 --> 00:18:46,640 subordinates i don't care what the name 373 00:18:48,789 --> 00:18:47,360 is 374 00:18:50,870 --> 00:18:48,799 i mean it would be nice if something i 375 00:18:53,590 --> 00:18:50,880 don't have to say o i a 376 00:18:56,390 --> 00:18:53,600 o a i a o i 377 00:18:58,310 --> 00:18:56,400 m s g something besides that something 378 00:19:00,230 --> 00:18:58,320 you know it would be nice to have 379 00:19:02,710 --> 00:19:00,240 an acronym that rolls off our tongue but 380 00:19:05,110 --> 00:19:02,720 that's the least of our concerns 381 00:19:06,630 --> 00:19:05,120 while unfortunate the rejection of the 382 00:19:08,470 --> 00:19:06,640 civilian advisory committee and 383 00:19:10,950 --> 00:19:08,480 nomenclature provisions is greatly 384 00:19:12,950 --> 00:19:10,960 overshadowed by this over shadowed by 385 00:19:14,150 --> 00:19:12,960 the sweeping substantive 386 00:19:16,150 --> 00:19:14,160 substance 387 00:19:18,230 --> 00:19:16,160 substantive provisions that the bill 388 00:19:20,549 --> 00:19:18,240 would enact into statutory law binding 389 00:19:22,630 --> 00:19:20,559 on this and every future administration 390 00:19:24,630 --> 00:19:22,640 unless modified by congress so that's 391 00:19:28,310 --> 00:19:24,640 exciting 392 00:19:30,549 --> 00:19:28,320 we get the first report the first 393 00:19:32,390 --> 00:19:30,559 unclassified report if this all takes 394 00:19:34,390 --> 00:19:32,400 place and gets you know passed and then 395 00:19:38,630 --> 00:19:34,400 we could see if we're really getting 396 00:19:42,870 --> 00:19:41,190 all right um 397 00:19:44,390 --> 00:19:42,880 enactment of this language would be 398 00:19:47,669 --> 00:19:44,400 unprecedented 399 00:19:51,669 --> 00:19:49,510 congress has never before enacted any 400 00:19:53,669 --> 00:19:51,679 statutes that deal explicitly with ufos 401 00:19:55,270 --> 00:19:53,679 or unidentified aerial phenomena to the 402 00:19:57,190 --> 00:19:55,280 extent that various government agencies 403 00:20:00,230 --> 00:19:57,200 have dealt with uap incidents or sought 404 00:20:02,310 --> 00:20:00,240 to manage public concerns about uaip 405 00:20:03,909 --> 00:20:02,320 they have done so under their general 406 00:20:05,590 --> 00:20:03,919 operating authority so they interpret 407 00:20:06,549 --> 00:20:05,600 them in recent years the senate select 408 00:20:08,149 --> 00:20:06,559 until 409 00:20:10,230 --> 00:20:08,159 senate select committee intelligence has 410 00:20:12,230 --> 00:20:10,240 prodded the pentagon and intelligence 411 00:20:14,230 --> 00:20:12,240 community with language in committee 412 00:20:16,710 --> 00:20:14,240 reports but enactment enactment of 413 00:20:18,470 --> 00:20:16,720 sweeping statutory mandates will elevate 414 00:20:20,549 --> 00:20:18,480 the subject matter of uap into an 415 00:20:22,310 --> 00:20:20,559 entirely new realm 416 00:20:23,830 --> 00:20:22,320 and guys i could see that the i could 417 00:20:25,270 --> 00:20:23,840 see the chat so if anybody has any 418 00:20:26,710 --> 00:20:25,280 questions doesn't even have to it could 419 00:20:28,710 --> 00:20:26,720 be about anything i'll interrupt what 420 00:20:30,149 --> 00:20:28,720 i'm reading 421 00:20:31,510 --> 00:20:30,159 because i'm just reading some of it it 422 00:20:34,310 --> 00:20:31,520 really doesn't call for comments it's 423 00:20:36,549 --> 00:20:34,320 pretty self-explanatory 424 00:20:39,029 --> 00:20:36,559 um and then dean goes on to say it's 425 00:20:41,669 --> 00:20:39,039 true senator harry reid 426 00:20:44,870 --> 00:20:41,679 with senator senator in ua and stevens 427 00:20:46,310 --> 00:20:44,880 quietly secured 22 million to fund 428 00:20:48,230 --> 00:20:46,320 ossap 429 00:20:49,830 --> 00:20:48,240 but no public legislative text revealed 430 00:20:51,510 --> 00:20:49,840 a true character of that program only a 431 00:20:54,630 --> 00:20:51,520 handful of members of congress even knew 432 00:20:55,669 --> 00:20:54,640 of his existence during that period 433 00:20:57,110 --> 00:20:55,679 and 434 00:20:58,870 --> 00:20:57,120 it was originally supposed to go for 435 00:21:00,950 --> 00:20:58,880 five years but it went for two because 436 00:21:02,950 --> 00:21:00,960 when they put in the request because and 437 00:21:05,430 --> 00:21:02,960 this is my 438 00:21:07,270 --> 00:21:05,440 my um take on not take just from reading 439 00:21:09,029 --> 00:21:07,280 skin walkers at the pentagon they put in 440 00:21:10,789 --> 00:21:09,039 a request to become a special access 441 00:21:12,310 --> 00:21:10,799 program and that letter got leaked and 442 00:21:14,149 --> 00:21:12,320 people found out about the program and 443 00:21:16,870 --> 00:21:14,159 they said what the hell are you 444 00:21:18,870 --> 00:21:16,880 investigating really and that's where 445 00:21:20,070 --> 00:21:18,880 they ran into trouble and certain people 446 00:21:21,909 --> 00:21:20,080 in the pentagon tried to kill the 447 00:21:24,710 --> 00:21:21,919 program and after two years they 448 00:21:28,789 --> 00:21:27,270 so and they he also talks about atip 449 00:21:30,870 --> 00:21:28,799 uh he says but that was all that was a 450 00:21:32,390 --> 00:21:30,880 modest initiative pursued by a small 451 00:21:34,070 --> 00:21:32,400 group under the general authorities of 452 00:21:35,750 --> 00:21:34,080 the under secretary of defense for 453 00:21:39,029 --> 00:21:35,760 intelligence not dependent on any 454 00:21:41,590 --> 00:21:39,039 references in legislation so yeah 455 00:21:47,350 --> 00:21:41,600 this one is legislation so was awesome 456 00:21:51,909 --> 00:21:49,510 frustrating some big youtube channels 457 00:21:53,190 --> 00:21:51,919 say skinwalker rants is a gift i've i've 458 00:21:55,270 --> 00:21:53,200 stopped paying attention and i'll tell 459 00:21:57,350 --> 00:21:55,280 you exactly 460 00:21:59,190 --> 00:21:57,360 i'll tell you why because 461 00:22:03,510 --> 00:21:59,200 and 462 00:22:04,310 --> 00:22:03,520 captured of ufos let me try to get rid 463 00:22:06,470 --> 00:22:04,320 of 464 00:22:08,390 --> 00:22:06,480 so i'm struggling 465 00:22:10,149 --> 00:22:08,400 getting rid of my 466 00:22:11,590 --> 00:22:10,159 screen for a second 467 00:22:13,990 --> 00:22:11,600 so i was talking about this the other 468 00:22:16,549 --> 00:22:14,000 day and i was working on a show 469 00:22:19,750 --> 00:22:16,559 i don't know who joe scott is bug but 470 00:22:21,510 --> 00:22:19,760 i was talking at work and 471 00:22:23,830 --> 00:22:21,520 two new people i met brought up a 472 00:22:25,190 --> 00:22:23,840 conversation about ufos i snuck it in 473 00:22:27,510 --> 00:22:25,200 there and then 474 00:22:29,990 --> 00:22:27,520 i think one of them may have brought up 475 00:22:31,909 --> 00:22:30,000 skinwalker ranch and i was like yeah i 476 00:22:34,070 --> 00:22:31,919 mean a lot of it is not captured on 477 00:22:36,310 --> 00:22:34,080 video a lot of it is 478 00:22:38,549 --> 00:22:36,320 it's anecdotal but is there a point 479 00:22:41,110 --> 00:22:38,559 where it's so many stories of the same 480 00:22:42,549 --> 00:22:41,120 type of activity slightly different 481 00:22:44,549 --> 00:22:42,559 where you come to the conclusion at 482 00:22:46,070 --> 00:22:44,559 least i have 483 00:22:47,510 --> 00:22:46,080 that something is going on there 484 00:22:49,029 --> 00:22:47,520 something weird 485 00:22:51,110 --> 00:22:49,039 there are still people who think it's 486 00:22:53,270 --> 00:22:51,120 black technology whatever you want to 487 00:22:55,270 --> 00:22:53,280 make that argument fine something is 488 00:22:56,789 --> 00:22:55,280 going on there um 489 00:22:58,549 --> 00:22:56,799 so it needs to be investigated same 490 00:23:00,470 --> 00:22:58,559 thing with some of the some of the 491 00:23:02,230 --> 00:23:00,480 investigations that ocep did people will 492 00:23:04,470 --> 00:23:02,240 talk about certain orbs and like well we 493 00:23:06,390 --> 00:23:04,480 have that technology okay well if we 494 00:23:08,630 --> 00:23:06,400 have technology that we're 495 00:23:10,950 --> 00:23:08,640 we're sending out and it's entering 496 00:23:12,710 --> 00:23:10,960 human beings and in injuring and killing 497 00:23:14,630 --> 00:23:12,720 americans i think that needs to be 498 00:23:16,710 --> 00:23:14,640 studied let's just i mean just for 499 00:23:18,789 --> 00:23:16,720 argument's sake it's black technology 500 00:23:21,510 --> 00:23:18,799 how do you not study that i mean kit 501 00:23:22,950 --> 00:23:21,520 green 25 of his patients died between 502 00:23:24,789 --> 00:23:22,960 five and seven years after they have a 503 00:23:26,710 --> 00:23:24,799 close encounter that should be studied 504 00:23:28,789 --> 00:23:26,720 no matter what it would be a bigger 505 00:23:31,590 --> 00:23:28,799 scandal if that was if that was black 506 00:23:32,870 --> 00:23:31,600 human technology by some rogue element 507 00:23:33,990 --> 00:23:32,880 of our government i mean that would be a 508 00:23:36,310 --> 00:23:34,000 huge deal 509 00:23:37,669 --> 00:23:36,320 skinwalker and the surrounding area 510 00:23:39,190 --> 00:23:37,679 that's the most important part it's not 511 00:23:40,710 --> 00:23:39,200 just skinwalker ranch it's the whole 512 00:23:41,510 --> 00:23:40,720 area and it's been going on for a long 513 00:23:43,990 --> 00:23:41,520 time 514 00:23:45,350 --> 00:23:44,000 other areas other hot spots so 515 00:23:47,110 --> 00:23:45,360 i don't i don't even want to debate it 516 00:23:48,630 --> 00:23:47,120 with people anymore it's a waste of time 517 00:23:51,269 --> 00:23:48,640 i want to try to figure out what's going 518 00:23:55,750 --> 00:23:51,279 on not that if it's going on 519 00:24:00,870 --> 00:23:59,029 so many witnesses you know 520 00:24:01,909 --> 00:24:00,880 dr eric davis 521 00:24:06,070 --> 00:24:01,919 um 522 00:24:10,470 --> 00:24:09,110 brandon fugle there there were five dia 523 00:24:12,070 --> 00:24:10,480 folks we don't know they're we don't 524 00:24:14,310 --> 00:24:12,080 know their names they were 10 security 525 00:24:17,830 --> 00:24:14,320 folks they all had hitchhiker stuff type 526 00:24:19,430 --> 00:24:17,840 of stuff happen is every person lying 527 00:24:20,870 --> 00:24:19,440 and then they're like i said but then 528 00:24:21,669 --> 00:24:20,880 there are a lot of people say nope it's 529 00:24:25,269 --> 00:24:21,679 all 530 00:24:26,870 --> 00:24:25,279 black budget tech 531 00:24:28,630 --> 00:24:26,880 and like i said if we have technology 532 00:24:30,149 --> 00:24:28,640 that can cause hitchhiker effect that's 533 00:24:31,669 --> 00:24:30,159 gone back you know we've had that for a 534 00:24:33,430 --> 00:24:31,679 long time and we can 535 00:24:35,669 --> 00:24:33,440 if that's what if that's what it is 536 00:24:38,149 --> 00:24:35,679 amazing you know amazing to me i don't 537 00:24:42,470 --> 00:24:38,159 think that's what's going on but 538 00:24:45,909 --> 00:24:44,070 yeah and i'm just saying black project 539 00:24:47,510 --> 00:24:45,919 just for the sake of argument i'm not 540 00:24:50,789 --> 00:24:47,520 saying it's impossible that some of it 541 00:24:52,950 --> 00:24:50,799 may be black technology but 542 00:24:55,669 --> 00:24:52,960 injuring people at the very least it has 543 00:24:57,029 --> 00:24:55,679 to be studied whatever it is so 544 00:24:58,549 --> 00:24:57,039 you know 545 00:25:01,269 --> 00:24:58,559 i'm not gonna i'm not gonna get into a 546 00:25:02,950 --> 00:25:01,279 big debate with somebody over what 547 00:25:04,230 --> 00:25:02,960 you know what it is if they're like nope 548 00:25:05,590 --> 00:25:04,240 sorry if they just say there's nothing 549 00:25:06,870 --> 00:25:05,600 going on just don't pay attention it's 550 00:25:08,149 --> 00:25:06,880 just a waste of time there's something 551 00:25:09,350 --> 00:25:08,159 going on i just want to figure out what 552 00:25:11,510 --> 00:25:09,360 it is 553 00:25:14,310 --> 00:25:11,520 so let me continue with 554 00:25:16,310 --> 00:25:14,320 doug's 555 00:25:17,990 --> 00:25:16,320 article 556 00:25:19,669 --> 00:25:18,000 it appears many members of congress who 557 00:25:21,750 --> 00:25:19,679 sit on the committees that have had 558 00:25:23,510 --> 00:25:21,760 access to classified briefings on uap 559 00:25:25,430 --> 00:25:23,520 since 2017 560 00:25:26,870 --> 00:25:25,440 have concluded that the dod and 561 00:25:29,990 --> 00:25:26,880 intelligence community have dealt with 562 00:25:32,149 --> 00:25:30,000 the issue in a haphazard fashion yes 563 00:25:34,950 --> 00:25:32,159 without institutional continuity or the 564 00:25:39,909 --> 00:25:34,960 marshaling of substantial resources 565 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:43,830 in september 25th i'll get back to that 566 00:25:47,909 --> 00:25:44,170 um 567 00:25:51,750 --> 00:25:49,590 just one quick i don't know of the place 568 00:25:52,710 --> 00:25:51,760 and i may actually may have heard the 569 00:25:53,990 --> 00:25:52,720 interview with somebody on middle 570 00:25:55,430 --> 00:25:54,000 tennessee there's a place i don't know 571 00:25:57,750 --> 00:25:55,440 the name of it there are other places in 572 00:26:01,669 --> 00:25:57,760 the united states yakima washington 573 00:26:03,590 --> 00:26:01,679 sedona arizona crestone colorado dolce 574 00:26:05,830 --> 00:26:03,600 new mexico so there are a lot of places 575 00:26:07,190 --> 00:26:05,840 why those places i mean is that an area 576 00:26:09,190 --> 00:26:07,200 and i know there are native american 577 00:26:10,789 --> 00:26:09,200 connections too not to everything but a 578 00:26:13,190 --> 00:26:10,799 lot of them 579 00:26:15,110 --> 00:26:13,200 so yeah um 580 00:26:16,789 --> 00:26:15,120 and it's there's also a skinwalker type 581 00:26:21,110 --> 00:26:16,799 place over in europe i'm not sure if 582 00:26:25,190 --> 00:26:21,120 there's just one so it's everywhere 583 00:26:29,830 --> 00:26:27,669 uh in a september 25th 21 interview with 584 00:26:31,830 --> 00:26:29,840 bender from politico gallegos said 585 00:26:33,750 --> 00:26:31,840 there's been a and i and i'm sure i saw 586 00:26:34,789 --> 00:26:33,760 this but i don't remember this but it's 587 00:26:36,830 --> 00:26:34,799 really good 588 00:26:39,430 --> 00:26:36,840 from gallegos saying there's been a 589 00:26:41,190 --> 00:26:39,440 lack total lack of focus across the 590 00:26:43,430 --> 00:26:41,200 national security apparatus to actually 591 00:26:45,990 --> 00:26:43,440 get at what's happening here regarding 592 00:26:48,149 --> 00:26:46,000 uap i think there's been kind of a 593 00:26:49,350 --> 00:26:48,159 partial pastime of curiosity seekers 594 00:26:51,430 --> 00:26:49,360 that are within the department of 595 00:26:53,269 --> 00:26:51,440 defense but there has not been any 596 00:26:55,350 --> 00:26:53,279 professional initiative across the 597 00:26:56,789 --> 00:26:55,360 defense enterprise so so that we can 598 00:26:58,470 --> 00:26:56,799 actually make some deliberate and 599 00:26:59,909 --> 00:26:58,480 knowledgeable decisions i mean that's 600 00:27:00,870 --> 00:26:59,919 yeah exactly 601 00:27:02,789 --> 00:27:00,880 um 602 00:27:06,149 --> 00:27:02,799 and gallego expanded on those themes in 603 00:27:07,830 --> 00:27:06,159 a video interview uh saying 604 00:27:09,029 --> 00:27:07,840 speaking of what he sees as a failure of 605 00:27:10,549 --> 00:27:09,039 the military and intelligence 606 00:27:12,310 --> 00:27:10,559 communities to bring coordinated and 607 00:27:14,070 --> 00:27:12,320 sustained scrutiny to bear on the ufo 608 00:27:16,149 --> 00:27:14,080 program gallego said 609 00:27:18,230 --> 00:27:16,159 i think actually more than anything else 610 00:27:20,630 --> 00:27:18,240 it's cultural because we've never 611 00:27:21,430 --> 00:27:20,640 treated uaps as serious as a serious 612 00:27:23,430 --> 00:27:21,440 issue 613 00:27:24,789 --> 00:27:23,440 no person wants to be known as the ufo 614 00:27:26,470 --> 00:27:24,799 general right 615 00:27:28,470 --> 00:27:26,480 or maybe the person who is the director 616 00:27:30,149 --> 00:27:28,480 of ufo information because that 617 00:27:31,669 --> 00:27:30,159 basically sets your career path in the 618 00:27:33,990 --> 00:27:31,679 military and so everyone that just 619 00:27:36,070 --> 00:27:34,000 avoids it everyone just avoids the issue 620 00:27:37,669 --> 00:27:36,080 politicians avoid the issues so everyone 621 00:27:40,389 --> 00:27:37,679 just kind of walks around in circles 622 00:27:41,990 --> 00:27:40,399 saying man there's something here but 623 00:27:43,990 --> 00:27:42,000 nobody wants to do anything about it 624 00:27:45,430 --> 00:27:44,000 that last part is exactly the point 625 00:27:47,350 --> 00:27:45,440 something's here but nobody's doing 626 00:27:49,190 --> 00:27:47,360 anything about it of course i do think 627 00:27:50,070 --> 00:27:49,200 somebody has been doing something about 628 00:27:52,710 --> 00:27:50,080 it 629 00:27:54,389 --> 00:27:52,720 except we don't have access to that 630 00:27:55,510 --> 00:27:54,399 um and that's something we can talk 631 00:27:57,830 --> 00:27:55,520 about 632 00:28:00,070 --> 00:27:57,840 as far as what's been going on in 633 00:28:02,149 --> 00:28:00,080 decades past 634 00:28:04,549 --> 00:28:02,159 i'll just see what other um yeah pine 635 00:28:06,789 --> 00:28:04,559 bush in new york whitney street's cabin 636 00:28:08,230 --> 00:28:06,799 i think was that near there hudson 637 00:28:09,669 --> 00:28:08,240 valley i'm not and but there are people 638 00:28:11,750 --> 00:28:09,679 who think hudson valley sightings were 639 00:28:13,750 --> 00:28:11,760 black triangles were ours 640 00:28:16,389 --> 00:28:13,760 um 641 00:28:17,190 --> 00:28:16,399 is there a dollar amount associated 642 00:28:23,430 --> 00:28:17,200 no 643 00:28:25,269 --> 00:28:23,440 it just says basically you get the funds 644 00:28:28,230 --> 00:28:25,279 you need i mean it doesn't doesn't 645 00:28:29,669 --> 00:28:28,240 specify which we'll see if people are 646 00:28:31,590 --> 00:28:29,679 asking for funds and saying we're not 647 00:28:33,510 --> 00:28:31,600 getting enough funds that's going to be 648 00:28:35,029 --> 00:28:33,520 an issue 649 00:28:37,590 --> 00:28:35,039 if the pentagon doesn't think there's 650 00:28:39,190 --> 00:28:37,600 anything to the whole ufo byp phenomena 651 00:28:43,029 --> 00:28:39,200 why are they freaking out about civilian 652 00:28:44,950 --> 00:28:43,039 oversight hypocritical 653 00:28:46,789 --> 00:28:44,960 i guess they can make the argument while 654 00:28:48,549 --> 00:28:46,799 it's adversarial tech that we need to 655 00:28:50,230 --> 00:28:48,559 figure out we don't want civilians 656 00:28:51,909 --> 00:28:50,240 finding out about that that's that's 657 00:28:53,990 --> 00:28:51,919 national security i'm sure that's what 658 00:28:57,269 --> 00:28:54,000 they could say 659 00:29:01,430 --> 00:28:59,909 whether or not that's a valid argument i 660 00:29:02,950 --> 00:29:01,440 don't know but hopefully eventually we 661 00:29:04,470 --> 00:29:02,960 can get civilians i mean it bugs me it 662 00:29:06,789 --> 00:29:04,480 definitely bugs me that civilians aren't 663 00:29:09,190 --> 00:29:06,799 included but i'm not gonna i can't i'm 664 00:29:12,070 --> 00:29:09,200 not gonna be negative on a day where 665 00:29:14,470 --> 00:29:12,080 this is a this is a big step forward 666 00:29:17,750 --> 00:29:14,480 it's not the final step whatsoever it's 667 00:29:21,909 --> 00:29:17,760 a big step forward though 668 00:29:23,750 --> 00:29:21,919 in november let me get rid of that 669 00:29:25,990 --> 00:29:23,760 in november uh in an interview with 670 00:29:27,669 --> 00:29:26,000 brian benner gillibrand said gillibrand 671 00:29:29,510 --> 00:29:27,679 said you're talking about drone 672 00:29:31,029 --> 00:29:29,520 technology you're talking about balloon 673 00:29:32,950 --> 00:29:31,039 technology you're talking about other 674 00:29:34,389 --> 00:29:32,960 aerial phenomena 675 00:29:36,789 --> 00:29:34,399 and then you're talking about the 676 00:29:39,350 --> 00:29:36,799 unknown regardless of where you fall on 677 00:29:41,029 --> 00:29:39,360 the question of the unknown you have to 678 00:29:43,029 --> 00:29:41,039 answer the rest of the questions that's 679 00:29:45,430 --> 00:29:43,039 why this is urgent that's why having no 680 00:29:48,070 --> 00:29:45,440 oversight or accountability up until now 681 00:29:51,350 --> 00:29:48,080 to me is unacceptable and i'm not sure 682 00:29:52,950 --> 00:29:51,360 um if she's referring to especially the 683 00:29:55,350 --> 00:29:52,960 the special access programs that don't 684 00:29:57,750 --> 00:29:55,360 have any oversight where 685 00:29:59,590 --> 00:29:57,760 any nobody in the government unless 686 00:30:01,269 --> 00:29:59,600 maybe if you're the secretary of defense 687 00:30:03,430 --> 00:30:01,279 you can get access to a certain special 688 00:30:04,789 --> 00:30:03,440 access program that might have ufo 689 00:30:06,310 --> 00:30:04,799 technology that 690 00:30:07,909 --> 00:30:06,320 how how do you have a government without 691 00:30:09,830 --> 00:30:07,919 over no oversight so i'm not sure if 692 00:30:12,549 --> 00:30:09,840 that's what she's talking about or other 693 00:30:14,549 --> 00:30:12,559 aspects of ufo data that exists that 694 00:30:15,909 --> 00:30:14,559 nobody has access to 695 00:30:17,350 --> 00:30:15,919 um 696 00:30:19,110 --> 00:30:17,360 and that was her tweet that she said 697 00:30:24,230 --> 00:30:19,120 sent out you know we cannot bury our 698 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:28,389 see you mick i see you 699 00:30:31,990 --> 00:30:30,149 the proposed new law would radically 700 00:30:34,549 --> 00:30:32,000 change the statutory terrain on which 701 00:30:36,470 --> 00:30:34,559 the dod and intelligence agencies 702 00:30:39,269 --> 00:30:36,480 i see i'll keep saying i see if he goes 703 00:30:41,269 --> 00:30:39,279 over that operate with respect to uap by 704 00:30:43,430 --> 00:30:41,279 enactment congress would clearly set 705 00:30:45,110 --> 00:30:43,440 forth explicit statutory mandates and 706 00:30:47,029 --> 00:30:45,120 place accountability for carrying them 707 00:30:49,269 --> 00:30:47,039 out squarely on the soldiers shoulders 708 00:30:51,350 --> 00:30:49,279 of the secretary of defense known as 709 00:30:52,950 --> 00:30:51,360 secretary going forward 710 00:30:55,669 --> 00:30:52,960 shared in some measure with another 711 00:30:58,710 --> 00:30:55,679 cabinet level officer the director of 712 00:31:00,310 --> 00:30:58,720 national intelligence ariel haynes 713 00:31:02,830 --> 00:31:00,320 who talked about we may be dealing with 714 00:31:05,590 --> 00:31:02,840 something that comes extraterrestrially 715 00:31:07,669 --> 00:31:05,600 which according to julian barnes of the 716 00:31:08,470 --> 00:31:07,679 new york times she was just not talking 717 00:31:10,630 --> 00:31:08,480 about 718 00:31:11,509 --> 00:31:10,640 aliens from outer space she was talking 719 00:31:14,070 --> 00:31:11,519 about 720 00:31:15,590 --> 00:31:14,080 solar flares and meteors and he 721 00:31:16,710 --> 00:31:15,600 dean has an update on that at the end of 722 00:31:18,870 --> 00:31:16,720 this article i don't know if we'll go 723 00:31:20,870 --> 00:31:18,880 that far um 724 00:31:23,110 --> 00:31:20,880 he stands by his reporting but won't say 725 00:31:25,190 --> 00:31:23,120 where that came from which i don't know 726 00:31:26,470 --> 00:31:25,200 just seems like you wouldn't at least as 727 00:31:29,830 --> 00:31:26,480 a reporter tell us where you got that 728 00:31:32,470 --> 00:31:31,430 hi julie 729 00:31:38,230 --> 00:31:32,480 the 730 00:31:40,549 --> 00:31:38,240 to establish an entity devoted to 731 00:31:41,990 --> 00:31:40,559 coordinating department and ic efforts 732 00:31:44,710 --> 00:31:42,000 to gather data on 733 00:31:46,789 --> 00:31:44,720 study the mysteries of uap 734 00:31:48,470 --> 00:31:46,799 the bill does not and this is a little 735 00:31:49,990 --> 00:31:48,480 worrisome the bill does not dictate 736 00:31:52,549 --> 00:31:50,000 exactly where this coordinating 737 00:31:55,669 --> 00:31:52,559 coordinating office 738 00:31:57,430 --> 00:31:55,679 specifics 739 00:31:59,269 --> 00:31:57,440 specifies that it must be within a 740 00:32:00,630 --> 00:31:59,279 component of the office of the secretary 741 00:32:02,070 --> 00:32:00,640 of defense or within a joint 742 00:32:03,830 --> 00:32:02,080 organization of the department of 743 00:32:07,430 --> 00:32:03,840 defense and the office of the director 744 00:32:11,669 --> 00:32:09,750 we now know that for the present at 745 00:32:14,549 --> 00:32:11,679 least the uap headquarters will be 746 00:32:15,310 --> 00:32:14,559 unfortunately named 747 00:32:20,310 --> 00:32:15,320 the 748 00:32:21,909 --> 00:32:20,320 acronym it's airborne object 749 00:32:24,549 --> 00:32:21,919 identification and management 750 00:32:26,230 --> 00:32:24,559 synchronization group aoi msg within the 751 00:32:28,070 --> 00:32:26,240 office of the under secretary of defense 752 00:32:30,230 --> 00:32:28,080 for intelligence and security that's the 753 00:32:32,870 --> 00:32:30,240 office we don't want it to be in because 754 00:32:34,310 --> 00:32:32,880 of their history of obfuscating this 755 00:32:36,230 --> 00:32:34,320 subject and 756 00:32:38,070 --> 00:32:36,240 not taking it seriously at least 757 00:32:39,590 --> 00:32:38,080 publicly 758 00:32:41,190 --> 00:32:39,600 it'll be in that office because deputy 759 00:32:42,870 --> 00:32:41,200 secretary of defense kathleen hicks 760 00:32:45,029 --> 00:32:42,880 announced the creation of that entity in 761 00:32:46,950 --> 00:32:45,039 a memorandum released november 23rd the 762 00:32:48,710 --> 00:32:46,960 hicks memo 763 00:32:50,710 --> 00:32:48,720 proposed new law would not directly 764 00:32:52,389 --> 00:32:50,720 govern the uap-related activity of 765 00:32:54,470 --> 00:32:52,399 agencies outside the defense 766 00:32:57,110 --> 00:32:54,480 intelligence community realm such as 767 00:32:59,110 --> 00:32:57,120 homeland security nasa or the faa but it 768 00:33:01,029 --> 00:32:59,120 would require active efforts by folks in 769 00:33:02,710 --> 00:33:01,039 the dod and intelligence community to 770 00:33:06,149 --> 00:33:02,720 collaborate with them 771 00:33:08,830 --> 00:33:06,159 such folks as nasa and dhs and faa and 772 00:33:11,990 --> 00:33:08,840 seek uap related data from such 773 00:33:14,549 --> 00:33:12,000 agencies hey nasa we would like your ufo 774 00:33:15,909 --> 00:33:14,559 data please on my desk by tomorrow so 775 00:33:22,149 --> 00:33:15,919 that's what that group that's what they 776 00:33:26,070 --> 00:33:24,230 among the functions of the central uap 777 00:33:27,269 --> 00:33:26,080 office would be the following developing 778 00:33:29,669 --> 00:33:27,279 procedures to synchronize and 779 00:33:32,549 --> 00:33:29,679 standardize the collection reporting and 780 00:33:36,630 --> 00:33:32,559 analysis of incidents including adverse 781 00:33:40,870 --> 00:33:39,269 regarding united regarding ufos across 782 00:33:42,549 --> 00:33:40,880 dod and intelligence community and 783 00:33:43,750 --> 00:33:42,559 that's the most important part that that 784 00:33:46,070 --> 00:33:43,760 made it in 785 00:33:47,750 --> 00:33:46,080 um two parts 786 00:33:49,350 --> 00:33:47,760 they'll meet they'll be they'll be 787 00:33:50,470 --> 00:33:49,360 studying individual cases they'll be 788 00:33:52,710 --> 00:33:50,480 able to go 789 00:33:54,389 --> 00:33:52,720 travel to where there was a sighting or 790 00:33:55,350 --> 00:33:54,399 an encounter and then if somebody had 791 00:33:57,509 --> 00:33:55,360 something 792 00:33:58,870 --> 00:33:57,519 physically wrong with them because they 793 00:34:01,509 --> 00:33:58,880 were so close 794 00:34:03,029 --> 00:34:01,519 to a ufo then they study that the big 795 00:34:04,950 --> 00:34:03,039 question i have which is not discussed 796 00:34:06,549 --> 00:34:04,960 here as what column keller has said the 797 00:34:08,950 --> 00:34:06,559 only way 798 00:34:10,470 --> 00:34:08,960 colin keller and this is james kahn 799 00:34:13,109 --> 00:34:10,480 keller told me something about nasa a 800 00:34:15,510 --> 00:34:13,119 while back very strange 801 00:34:17,589 --> 00:34:15,520 when i take when i go back all you can i 802 00:34:24,230 --> 00:34:17,599 can i can go back you can you share that 803 00:34:28,470 --> 00:34:26,389 so that's james teasing us 804 00:34:30,230 --> 00:34:28,480 something very strange from com kelleher 805 00:34:35,669 --> 00:34:30,240 about nasa 806 00:34:40,550 --> 00:34:38,310 nasa gossip 807 00:34:43,109 --> 00:34:40,560 i will i will keep reading as i'm 808 00:34:45,109 --> 00:34:43,119 looking at that 809 00:34:46,869 --> 00:34:45,119 so colin kelleher said 810 00:34:48,629 --> 00:34:46,879 the reason they were able to get folks 811 00:34:51,349 --> 00:34:48,639 to 812 00:34:53,589 --> 00:34:51,359 open up about their experiences 813 00:34:59,190 --> 00:34:53,599 first of all they had 814 00:35:03,510 --> 00:35:01,190 if you want to share details please do 815 00:35:05,109 --> 00:35:03,520 if not i will keep reading uh so colin 816 00:35:07,030 --> 00:35:05,119 kelleher said 817 00:35:08,230 --> 00:35:07,040 they had medical doctors physicians who 818 00:35:11,109 --> 00:35:08,240 were looking at some of the folks who 819 00:35:12,950 --> 00:35:11,119 were injured by the uap close encounters 820 00:35:15,670 --> 00:35:12,960 and they stayed with them and they took 821 00:35:18,630 --> 00:35:15,680 blood work and they looked all matter of 822 00:35:21,190 --> 00:35:18,640 phys medical diagnosis 823 00:35:23,589 --> 00:35:21,200 uh mris and they stayed with them he 824 00:35:25,349 --> 00:35:23,599 said sometimes months sometimes years he 825 00:35:27,109 --> 00:35:25,359 goes and once once they became 826 00:35:28,550 --> 00:35:27,119 comfortable with the people who were 827 00:35:30,390 --> 00:35:28,560 investigating their case then they would 828 00:35:32,470 --> 00:35:30,400 start sharing some of the more 829 00:35:34,870 --> 00:35:32,480 controversial things like 830 00:35:36,550 --> 00:35:34,880 hitchhiker effects poltergeist because 831 00:35:38,790 --> 00:35:36,560 if somebody comes to your house and says 832 00:35:40,470 --> 00:35:38,800 you know depending depending on who you 833 00:35:42,069 --> 00:35:40,480 are of course you might be more reticent 834 00:35:43,430 --> 00:35:42,079 if you're a military person especially 835 00:35:44,790 --> 00:35:43,440 if you're a pilot 836 00:35:46,710 --> 00:35:44,800 oh yeah well 837 00:35:48,310 --> 00:35:46,720 got home and then woke up last night 838 00:35:51,109 --> 00:35:48,320 there was this black 839 00:35:51,829 --> 00:35:51,119 shadow figure over my house over my bed 840 00:35:52,790 --> 00:35:51,839 and 841 00:35:56,230 --> 00:35:52,800 you know 842 00:35:57,430 --> 00:35:56,240 flying around downstairs if you're in 843 00:35:58,870 --> 00:35:57,440 the military or if you're a pilot you're 844 00:36:00,630 --> 00:35:58,880 not going to share that he's basically 845 00:36:02,150 --> 00:36:00,640 saying no matter who you are the more 846 00:36:05,270 --> 00:36:02,160 time they spent with the witnesses the 847 00:36:07,829 --> 00:36:05,280 more they were more open about it 848 00:36:09,750 --> 00:36:07,839 so james is saying 849 00:36:11,510 --> 00:36:09,760 dr noland and my associates have made 850 00:36:13,750 --> 00:36:11,520 many new discoveries i am retired from 851 00:36:15,990 --> 00:36:13,760 the media but still search for the truth 852 00:36:19,910 --> 00:36:16,000 one day one day soon teamed up with nasa 853 00:36:22,230 --> 00:36:19,920 much will be revealed 854 00:36:26,069 --> 00:36:22,240 and that was from 855 00:36:29,030 --> 00:36:26,079 i told you that that was from 856 00:36:30,790 --> 00:36:29,040 tom kelleher told him that 857 00:36:32,950 --> 00:36:30,800 colin kelleher told 858 00:36:34,870 --> 00:36:32,960 james that dr nolan and my associates 859 00:36:36,310 --> 00:36:34,880 have made many new discoveries i am 860 00:36:37,910 --> 00:36:36,320 retired from the media but still search 861 00:36:39,589 --> 00:36:37,920 for the truth 862 00:36:41,270 --> 00:36:39,599 one day soon teamed up with nasa much 863 00:36:42,310 --> 00:36:41,280 would be revealed well that's a really 864 00:36:43,670 --> 00:36:42,320 good 865 00:36:45,270 --> 00:36:43,680 tease and i want to know what the hell 866 00:36:47,270 --> 00:36:45,280 that is 867 00:36:50,710 --> 00:36:47,280 yeah thanks for sharing that james 868 00:36:52,710 --> 00:36:50,720 had never heard anything like that 869 00:36:54,950 --> 00:36:52,720 i have an exclusive thanks to james 870 00:36:55,829 --> 00:36:54,960 iandoli thank you very much for sharing 871 00:37:02,390 --> 00:36:55,839 that 872 00:37:04,230 --> 00:37:02,400 i have no idea what does nasa know i 873 00:37:05,670 --> 00:37:04,240 mean you see the the pictures that uri 874 00:37:07,589 --> 00:37:05,680 geller and i know people have problems 875 00:37:09,430 --> 00:37:07,599 with hurry geller but i haven't i have 876 00:37:11,829 --> 00:37:09,440 no doubt that harry geller has real 877 00:37:14,150 --> 00:37:11,839 abilities i also know that 878 00:37:15,510 --> 00:37:14,160 people who have real ability sometimes 879 00:37:17,270 --> 00:37:15,520 don't have those real abilities and 880 00:37:19,670 --> 00:37:17,280 they'll cheat if they get a chance i'm 881 00:37:21,750 --> 00:37:19,680 not you know i've seen video of him 882 00:37:23,990 --> 00:37:21,760 but geller posted pictures of him with 883 00:37:25,750 --> 00:37:24,000 werner von braun at nasa and claiming 884 00:37:27,829 --> 00:37:25,760 that he saw the bodies but he wouldn't 885 00:37:28,950 --> 00:37:27,839 go into details 886 00:37:32,870 --> 00:37:28,960 so 887 00:37:35,030 --> 00:37:32,880 and just sharing that james gets kisses 888 00:37:36,870 --> 00:37:35,040 back to the article 889 00:37:39,430 --> 00:37:36,880 among the functions of the central uap 890 00:37:42,310 --> 00:37:39,440 office would be 891 00:37:48,790 --> 00:37:44,390 would be following development 892 00:37:52,950 --> 00:37:51,349 evaluating links between 893 00:37:54,390 --> 00:37:52,960 yeah you know they got the adversarial 894 00:37:56,230 --> 00:37:54,400 adversarial foreign governments which we 895 00:37:58,470 --> 00:37:56,240 don't care about and non-state actors 896 00:38:00,310 --> 00:37:58,480 terrorist groups you know maybe some of 897 00:38:02,310 --> 00:38:00,320 some of this is their technology okay 898 00:38:04,390 --> 00:38:02,320 that's not what we care about 899 00:38:05,990 --> 00:38:04,400 drones which look you know super 900 00:38:07,589 --> 00:38:06,000 advanced 901 00:38:09,270 --> 00:38:07,599 coordinating with other departments and 902 00:38:11,109 --> 00:38:09,280 agencies of the federal government as 903 00:38:14,230 --> 00:38:11,119 appropriate they will 904 00:38:15,910 --> 00:38:14,240 coordinate with faa nasa 905 00:38:18,870 --> 00:38:15,920 did i read this already 906 00:38:20,630 --> 00:38:18,880 um i might have read this already so 907 00:38:22,310 --> 00:38:20,640 or might just be repetitive 908 00:38:23,589 --> 00:38:22,320 while the central office would exercise 909 00:38:24,870 --> 00:38:23,599 oversight authority and play a 910 00:38:26,790 --> 00:38:24,880 coordination 911 00:38:28,790 --> 00:38:26,800 function key provisions require the 912 00:38:31,990 --> 00:38:28,800 secretary of defense and dni to 913 00:38:34,390 --> 00:38:32,000 designate line organizations basically 914 00:38:36,150 --> 00:38:34,400 they'll designate certain military 915 00:38:38,790 --> 00:38:36,160 and or intelligence components to 916 00:38:41,109 --> 00:38:38,800 conduct the operational aspects of uap 917 00:38:42,950 --> 00:38:41,119 investigations that could be get you 918 00:38:44,230 --> 00:38:42,960 know hopefully it's not the air force in 919 00:38:45,829 --> 00:38:44,240 charge of this but 920 00:38:47,109 --> 00:38:45,839 hopefully they pick somebody and they 921 00:38:49,030 --> 00:38:47,119 put somebody in charge who is 922 00:38:50,150 --> 00:38:49,040 open-minded and willing to share as 923 00:38:51,670 --> 00:38:50,160 obviously it's not going to be that 924 00:38:56,310 --> 00:38:51,680 person who's going to be sharing it but 925 00:39:00,790 --> 00:38:59,109 it requires that these organizations 926 00:39:04,390 --> 00:39:00,800 these line organizations that'll be 927 00:39:07,990 --> 00:39:06,150 to carry out the investigations they 928 00:39:10,150 --> 00:39:08,000 will have to 929 00:39:11,990 --> 00:39:10,160 have access this is important to 930 00:39:13,349 --> 00:39:12,000 adequate personnel with requisite 931 00:39:16,390 --> 00:39:13,359 expertise 932 00:39:18,150 --> 00:39:16,400 equipment transportation and other 933 00:39:20,990 --> 00:39:18,160 you must have a car if you're going to 934 00:39:23,190 --> 00:39:21,000 work in the ufo office it is a 935 00:39:26,950 --> 00:39:23,200 pre-prerequisite that you have a car if 936 00:39:29,030 --> 00:39:26,960 not you can't work for us it's like 937 00:39:30,870 --> 00:39:29,040 that's kind of weird it's like 938 00:39:32,550 --> 00:39:30,880 yes make sure they have and i know it's 939 00:39:34,470 --> 00:39:32,560 not real i'm i'm reading that the wrong 940 00:39:36,710 --> 00:39:34,480 way transportation provided by the 941 00:39:38,710 --> 00:39:36,720 government and other sources necessary 942 00:39:39,910 --> 00:39:38,720 to respond rapidly 943 00:39:42,550 --> 00:39:39,920 to incidents because you don't want to 944 00:39:45,270 --> 00:39:42,560 be taking the bus to a ufo sighting and 945 00:39:47,190 --> 00:39:45,280 if you miss the bus you're in trouble 946 00:39:49,510 --> 00:39:47,200 so this is exciting other resources 947 00:39:51,510 --> 00:39:49,520 necessary to respond rapidly to 948 00:39:53,430 --> 00:39:51,520 incidents or patterns of observations 949 00:39:56,230 --> 00:39:53,440 and that's that's awesome basically that 950 00:39:57,349 --> 00:39:56,240 is awesome um get there as fast as you 951 00:39:58,470 --> 00:39:57,359 can especially if they're cattle 952 00:40:00,710 --> 00:39:58,480 mutilations i'm not sure if they're 953 00:40:02,390 --> 00:40:00,720 going to cover cattle mutilations um i 954 00:40:04,710 --> 00:40:02,400 guess if somebody's also involved and 955 00:40:06,150 --> 00:40:04,720 they get injured i'm not sure 956 00:40:07,750 --> 00:40:06,160 that would be a good question to ask 957 00:40:09,030 --> 00:40:07,760 whoever gets put in charge of this 958 00:40:11,670 --> 00:40:09,040 program 959 00:40:14,550 --> 00:40:11,680 the grg text also requires 960 00:40:16,710 --> 00:40:14,560 the director of the pentagon uav office 961 00:40:19,109 --> 00:40:16,720 uap office to supervise development of a 962 00:40:20,550 --> 00:40:19,119 science plan to develop and test as 963 00:40:22,069 --> 00:40:20,560 practicable 964 00:40:23,990 --> 00:40:22,079 scientific theories to account for 965 00:40:25,750 --> 00:40:24,000 characteristics and performances 966 00:40:27,430 --> 00:40:25,760 performance of unidentified aerial 967 00:40:29,349 --> 00:40:27,440 phenomena that exceed the known state of 968 00:40:31,030 --> 00:40:29,359 the art in science or technology 969 00:40:32,950 --> 00:40:31,040 including in the areas of propulsion 970 00:40:35,030 --> 00:40:32,960 aerodynamic control signatures 971 00:40:36,950 --> 00:40:35,040 structures materials sensors 972 00:40:40,230 --> 00:40:36,960 countermeasures weapons electronics and 973 00:40:42,309 --> 00:40:40,240 power generations and most importantly 974 00:40:43,910 --> 00:40:42,319 to try to replicate any such advanced 975 00:40:45,990 --> 00:40:43,920 characteristics and performance 976 00:40:48,230 --> 00:40:46,000 basically reverse engineer whatever 977 00:40:49,030 --> 00:40:48,240 technology work we're seeing which i'm 978 00:40:51,190 --> 00:40:49,040 sure 979 00:40:53,030 --> 00:40:51,200 no doubt has been going on and we're 980 00:40:54,630 --> 00:40:53,040 kind of reinventing the wheel here i 981 00:40:57,109 --> 00:40:54,640 realized we're reinventing the wheel 982 00:41:01,430 --> 00:40:57,119 with a lot of stuff 983 00:41:04,950 --> 00:41:03,430 play the hand we're dealt and they also 984 00:41:06,550 --> 00:41:04,960 want to provide the foundation for for 985 00:41:08,309 --> 00:41:06,560 potential future investments to 986 00:41:10,390 --> 00:41:08,319 replicate any such advanced 987 00:41:12,870 --> 00:41:10,400 characteristics and technology 988 00:41:14,870 --> 00:41:12,880 the ufo that tom delong talked about 989 00:41:16,710 --> 00:41:14,880 they're going to replicate that 990 00:41:18,069 --> 00:41:16,720 and i will not be alive for that unless 991 00:41:20,630 --> 00:41:18,079 they already have it 992 00:41:24,630 --> 00:41:20,640 i think how hal put off said maybe 993 00:41:27,270 --> 00:41:24,640 50 to 100 years we get that technology 994 00:41:31,829 --> 00:41:27,280 rapid mobilization team yes and it's 995 00:41:37,430 --> 00:41:35,750 i'm just gonna stop here and just 996 00:41:41,910 --> 00:41:37,440 the wu train 997 00:41:43,910 --> 00:41:41,920 getting 998 00:41:47,589 --> 00:41:43,920 it'll get more full as time goes on as 999 00:41:51,510 --> 00:41:49,349 the side effects of having a close 1000 00:41:53,670 --> 00:41:51,520 encounter put it that way 1001 00:41:56,630 --> 00:41:53,680 i did not know c said he had an early 1002 00:41:58,309 --> 00:41:56,640 team like that james i did not know that 1003 00:41:59,910 --> 00:41:58,319 but it's a good thing and we need it 1004 00:42:02,550 --> 00:41:59,920 hopefully it actually plays out the way 1005 00:42:04,309 --> 00:42:02,560 it reads 1006 00:42:06,309 --> 00:42:04,319 now let's see 1007 00:42:07,670 --> 00:42:06,319 this is one of my favorite parts is at 1008 00:42:09,670 --> 00:42:07,680 the end of this paragraph the language 1009 00:42:11,829 --> 00:42:09,680 mandates the secretary and the dni shall 1010 00:42:14,710 --> 00:42:11,839 ensure that each element of the the ic 1011 00:42:17,349 --> 00:42:14,720 with data related to unidentified ua 1012 00:42:20,069 --> 00:42:17,359 with data related to uap make such data 1013 00:42:22,230 --> 00:42:20,079 available immediately to the uap office 1014 00:42:23,670 --> 00:42:22,240 in theory that's amazing if it happens 1015 00:42:25,829 --> 00:42:23,680 doesn't mean we're going to see it to 1016 00:42:27,510 --> 00:42:25,839 help enforce that decree 1017 00:42:29,190 --> 00:42:27,520 the bill requires that at least twice a 1018 00:42:30,870 --> 00:42:29,200 year the chairman and vice chairman of 1019 00:42:32,550 --> 00:42:30,880 ranking member of the committee on armed 1020 00:42:34,069 --> 00:42:32,560 services and select committee on 1021 00:42:35,510 --> 00:42:34,079 intelligence of the senate and committee 1022 00:42:36,870 --> 00:42:35,520 on armed services 1023 00:42:38,790 --> 00:42:36,880 and permanent select committee on 1024 00:42:41,910 --> 00:42:38,800 intelligence of the house shall receive 1025 00:42:45,030 --> 00:42:41,920 an enumeration of any instances in which 1026 00:42:46,950 --> 00:42:45,040 data related to uap was denied to the 1027 00:42:49,510 --> 00:42:46,960 office because of classification 1028 00:42:51,670 --> 00:42:49,520 restrictions on that data or for any 1029 00:42:54,790 --> 00:42:51,680 other reason so basically 1030 00:42:55,990 --> 00:42:54,800 i'm sorry sir you cannot have our ufo 1031 00:42:58,230 --> 00:42:56,000 access 1032 00:43:00,470 --> 00:42:58,240 our ufo data because you don't have the 1033 00:43:02,069 --> 00:43:00,480 proper clearances to see it that's one 1034 00:43:03,510 --> 00:43:02,079 way that they would not be able to get 1035 00:43:05,109 --> 00:43:03,520 it and if that's the case that they need 1036 00:43:06,550 --> 00:43:05,119 to go back to those folks and say hey 1037 00:43:08,069 --> 00:43:06,560 they're not giving us the information 1038 00:43:09,109 --> 00:43:08,079 because they say i don't have the proper 1039 00:43:11,270 --> 00:43:09,119 clearance 1040 00:43:14,390 --> 00:43:11,280 or the second reason or for any other 1041 00:43:15,910 --> 00:43:14,400 reason so it could be i'm sorry but ufos 1042 00:43:17,750 --> 00:43:15,920 are demonic and i'm not going to give 1043 00:43:20,230 --> 00:43:17,760 you access to this data because i don't 1044 00:43:23,190 --> 00:43:20,240 want to give access to the demons i 1045 00:43:24,950 --> 00:43:23,200 don't want to give access to our world 1046 00:43:26,870 --> 00:43:24,960 i don't want to get demons i don't want 1047 00:43:28,150 --> 00:43:26,880 to give demons access to our world i'm 1048 00:43:29,829 --> 00:43:28,160 just using that because we know there 1049 00:43:32,950 --> 00:43:29,839 are people in the pentagon who think 1050 00:43:34,950 --> 00:43:32,960 like that um whatever the case i would 1051 00:43:36,710 --> 00:43:34,960 like you know there's so many questions 1052 00:43:38,470 --> 00:43:36,720 if certain things were denied will they 1053 00:43:40,470 --> 00:43:38,480 tell us why they were denied i mean i 1054 00:43:42,150 --> 00:43:40,480 don't is it not class is it classified 1055 00:43:44,470 --> 00:43:42,160 to say well 1056 00:43:45,670 --> 00:43:44,480 we were turned down because 1057 00:43:47,910 --> 00:43:45,680 i don't have 1058 00:43:49,589 --> 00:43:47,920 i'm not on some bigot list for a special 1059 00:43:51,670 --> 00:43:49,599 access program and that's why we weren't 1060 00:43:53,510 --> 00:43:51,680 able to get in and we can't find anybody 1061 00:43:55,109 --> 00:43:53,520 who's on the bigot list so we're kind of 1062 00:43:56,950 --> 00:43:55,119 at a standstill right now are they going 1063 00:43:59,430 --> 00:43:56,960 to share that kind of information i 1064 00:44:01,109 --> 00:43:59,440 don't see why not um it's not classified 1065 00:44:03,190 --> 00:44:01,119 to say that you're not telling us what 1066 00:44:05,829 --> 00:44:03,200 program it is or what data you're not 1067 00:44:06,870 --> 00:44:05,839 being shared but still i mean i know 1068 00:44:08,230 --> 00:44:06,880 it's probably not going to happen 1069 00:44:10,710 --> 00:44:08,240 they're probably not going to tell us 1070 00:44:12,790 --> 00:44:10,720 that they were denied access 1071 00:44:14,470 --> 00:44:12,800 but that's potentially 1072 00:44:16,390 --> 00:44:14,480 that can open doors if they could figure 1073 00:44:18,790 --> 00:44:16,400 out a way to get beyond you know private 1074 00:44:20,390 --> 00:44:18,800 contractors if they have a craft or 1075 00:44:22,710 --> 00:44:20,400 pieces of a craft they need to figure 1076 00:44:24,550 --> 00:44:22,720 out a way to get past well i'm sorry 1077 00:44:26,950 --> 00:44:24,560 we're private you have no you have no 1078 00:44:28,550 --> 00:44:26,960 say in our matter and it's plus it's 1079 00:44:30,150 --> 00:44:28,560 but it's a special access program so 1080 00:44:31,910 --> 00:44:30,160 there is there's government involvement 1081 00:44:34,470 --> 00:44:31,920 somebody told me privately they're like 1082 00:44:38,069 --> 00:44:34,480 there is government funding so yes 1083 00:44:42,230 --> 00:44:40,630 importantly let me see any questions 1084 00:44:47,190 --> 00:44:42,240 a lot of denied data i'm sure there's 1085 00:44:51,510 --> 00:44:49,030 and uh i'll definitely pull up that part 1086 00:44:54,710 --> 00:44:51,520 of the video later and put it on twitter 1087 00:44:56,390 --> 00:44:54,720 what james said about kelleher and 1088 00:44:57,829 --> 00:44:56,400 nolan and nasa 1089 00:45:01,349 --> 00:44:57,839 importantly 1090 00:45:03,349 --> 00:45:01,359 the grg text 1091 00:45:05,430 --> 00:45:03,359 i don't need to be on here 1092 00:45:07,030 --> 00:45:05,440 the grg text contains what i call a 1093 00:45:08,230 --> 00:45:07,040 right to report provision which says 1094 00:45:10,069 --> 00:45:08,240 this is important too there's some 1095 00:45:11,670 --> 00:45:10,079 really great stuff in here 1096 00:45:14,470 --> 00:45:11,680 uh it says the mechanisms must be 1097 00:45:16,870 --> 00:45:14,480 provided by which military and civilian 1098 00:45:20,150 --> 00:45:16,880 personnel associated with the military 1099 00:45:22,950 --> 00:45:20,160 or the ic including contractor personnel 1100 00:45:25,190 --> 00:45:22,960 can report uap related events including 1101 00:45:27,270 --> 00:45:25,200 adverse psych physiological effects 1102 00:45:28,710 --> 00:45:27,280 directly to the uap office they have to 1103 00:45:31,349 --> 00:45:28,720 there has to be stuff in place where if 1104 00:45:32,710 --> 00:45:31,359 i'm if i'm hurt by for by ufo and i'm 1105 00:45:34,550 --> 00:45:32,720 working for the government or the intel 1106 00:45:36,150 --> 00:45:34,560 community i'm working for a contractor 1107 00:45:37,670 --> 00:45:36,160 and i get hurt i should be able to go 1108 00:45:39,750 --> 00:45:37,680 right to that office 1109 00:45:42,150 --> 00:45:39,760 and tell them about what happened and 1110 00:45:44,069 --> 00:45:42,160 not worry about stigma or fear of 1111 00:45:45,190 --> 00:45:44,079 ridicule coming back on me or me losing 1112 00:45:47,910 --> 00:45:45,200 my job 1113 00:45:50,069 --> 00:45:47,920 um pilots and the pilots are another 1114 00:45:52,069 --> 00:45:50,079 case i i can't see it i know it's easy 1115 00:45:53,270 --> 00:45:52,079 to say to a pilot you need to just go 1116 00:45:55,270 --> 00:45:53,280 forward you're not going to lose your 1117 00:45:57,349 --> 00:45:55,280 you're not going to lose your flight uh 1118 00:45:58,790 --> 00:45:57,359 status and then the pilot goes forward 1119 00:46:00,710 --> 00:45:58,800 and says well i saw 1120 00:46:02,950 --> 00:46:00,720 i saw a wolf in the backyard last night 1121 00:46:04,630 --> 00:46:02,960 and it was standing on two legs so and 1122 00:46:06,069 --> 00:46:04,640 it was smoking and 1123 00:46:07,990 --> 00:46:06,079 nothing like that was in awesome but if 1124 00:46:10,150 --> 00:46:08,000 you've studied if you read hunt for the 1125 00:46:12,390 --> 00:46:10,160 skinwalker there were smoking dogs and 1126 00:46:14,069 --> 00:46:12,400 trench coats which is so ridiculous if 1127 00:46:16,230 --> 00:46:14,079 you're a pilot you're not going to share 1128 00:46:18,150 --> 00:46:16,240 that story i don't care what office is 1129 00:46:20,309 --> 00:46:18,160 in place but the fact that that office 1130 00:46:22,309 --> 00:46:20,319 is going to be in place is really really 1131 00:46:23,589 --> 00:46:22,319 important and that's one of the that's a 1132 00:46:26,550 --> 00:46:23,599 really important part of this 1133 00:46:29,990 --> 00:46:26,560 legislation this language 1134 00:46:34,550 --> 00:46:32,710 dean writes the provision is clear and 1135 00:46:36,309 --> 00:46:34,560 clearly intended to curb stigma and fear 1136 00:46:38,230 --> 00:46:36,319 of ridicule 1137 00:46:39,910 --> 00:46:38,240 or disapproval that have for so long 1138 00:46:41,910 --> 00:46:39,920 inhabited pilots and other military 1139 00:46:43,190 --> 00:46:41,920 personnel from reporting uap encounters 1140 00:46:45,190 --> 00:46:43,200 and that in some cases may have 1141 00:46:46,550 --> 00:46:45,200 prevented even extraordinary encounters 1142 00:46:49,270 --> 00:46:46,560 from being passed up the chain of 1143 00:46:54,230 --> 00:46:51,910 because we really haven't made a formal 1144 00:46:55,910 --> 00:46:54,240 process to this a lot of military men 1145 00:46:57,910 --> 00:46:55,920 and women just don't want to say 1146 00:47:00,230 --> 00:46:57,920 anything because they're afraid that it 1147 00:47:03,430 --> 00:47:00,240 will affect their career congressman 1148 00:47:05,349 --> 00:47:03,440 gallego observed on the 14th 1149 00:47:07,990 --> 00:47:05,359 so we have information bias happening 1150 00:47:09,750 --> 00:47:08,000 right now the people that probably have 1151 00:47:11,670 --> 00:47:09,760 more information are afraid to talk and 1152 00:47:14,230 --> 00:47:11,680 then even if they do talk the 1153 00:47:16,630 --> 00:47:14,240 information goes nowhere 1154 00:47:18,069 --> 00:47:16,640 great great comments from gallego and 1155 00:47:20,549 --> 00:47:18,079 i'm sure i've read or heard this before 1156 00:47:22,870 --> 00:47:20,559 but it's good to read it again um it 1157 00:47:24,630 --> 00:47:22,880 gives me hope that 1158 00:47:26,710 --> 00:47:24,640 sometime in the next 1159 00:47:29,430 --> 00:47:26,720 few decades that we're going to get some 1160 00:47:31,190 --> 00:47:29,440 answers at least data that 1161 00:47:33,109 --> 00:47:31,200 provides more questions that we need to 1162 00:47:34,390 --> 00:47:33,119 answer 1163 00:47:37,030 --> 00:47:34,400 um 1164 00:47:41,430 --> 00:47:39,270 no i've heard about it mule 1165 00:47:43,190 --> 00:47:41,440 i haven't had a chance to read it that 1166 00:47:44,870 --> 00:47:43,200 doesn't i mean i don't know why you 1167 00:47:47,750 --> 00:47:44,880 would say that because 1168 00:47:49,030 --> 00:47:47,760 i do i do think we have i don't know but 1169 00:47:50,470 --> 00:47:49,040 i think we have black technology you 1170 00:47:52,309 --> 00:47:50,480 mean 1171 00:47:53,990 --> 00:47:52,319 read my will miller interview will 1172 00:47:56,390 --> 00:47:54,000 miller is 1173 00:47:58,069 --> 00:47:56,400 pretty smart guy he was in contact with 1174 00:48:01,030 --> 00:47:58,079 he worked in several special access 1175 00:48:01,910 --> 00:48:01,040 programs which he told me um 1176 00:48:03,109 --> 00:48:01,920 so 1177 00:48:04,870 --> 00:48:03,119 we may have 1178 00:48:07,510 --> 00:48:04,880 we already may have 1179 00:48:08,870 --> 00:48:07,520 you know craft that can defeat gravity 1180 00:48:10,470 --> 00:48:08,880 but then you have somebody like eric 1181 00:48:12,710 --> 00:48:10,480 davis is like nope 1182 00:48:13,829 --> 00:48:12,720 we have not so 1183 00:48:15,589 --> 00:48:13,839 good luck with your show the steady 1184 00:48:17,109 --> 00:48:15,599 loving trolls were 1185 00:48:18,950 --> 00:48:17,119 said eleven trolls were thick on martin 1186 00:48:21,109 --> 00:48:18,960 will's show denying everything about uap 1187 00:48:23,109 --> 00:48:21,119 phenomena and john ramirez yeah i have 1188 00:48:24,870 --> 00:48:23,119 not commented about john ramirez yet and 1189 00:48:26,630 --> 00:48:24,880 i don't think john is lying about his 1190 00:48:27,670 --> 00:48:26,640 cia background i just don't know about 1191 00:48:29,190 --> 00:48:27,680 his 1192 00:48:31,109 --> 00:48:29,200 i don't know about what he's talking 1193 00:48:32,069 --> 00:48:31,119 about his experiences so 1194 00:48:33,349 --> 00:48:32,079 but 1195 00:48:34,710 --> 00:48:33,359 um 1196 00:48:36,150 --> 00:48:34,720 i was supposed to be on martin's show 1197 00:48:37,349 --> 00:48:36,160 last year i was on once and then i was 1198 00:48:39,430 --> 00:48:37,359 supposed to be on again and we were 1199 00:48:41,030 --> 00:48:39,440 gonna talk wilson davis 1200 00:48:43,109 --> 00:48:41,040 and then he canceled without without 1201 00:48:45,190 --> 00:48:43,119 telling me because i was telling him i'm 1202 00:48:46,950 --> 00:48:45,200 like martin the new york times is doing 1203 00:48:48,870 --> 00:48:46,960 an article on 1204 00:48:51,829 --> 00:48:48,880 crash retrievals i think wilson davis 1205 00:48:54,549 --> 00:48:51,839 may be part of that and he was like 1206 00:48:56,950 --> 00:48:54,559 i talked to leslie there's no article 1207 00:48:58,630 --> 00:48:56,960 i'm like there's an article trust me and 1208 00:49:00,390 --> 00:48:58,640 then he canceled me and didn't tell me 1209 00:49:02,630 --> 00:49:00,400 about it until five minutes before the 1210 00:49:04,549 --> 00:49:02,640 show i'm like where's the link i still 1211 00:49:05,990 --> 00:49:04,559 like martin i still like a show 1212 00:49:07,829 --> 00:49:06,000 um 1213 00:49:10,069 --> 00:49:07,839 yeah i don't 1214 00:49:12,470 --> 00:49:10,079 know how the votes happen it doesn't 1215 00:49:14,309 --> 00:49:12,480 seem like it's publicly 1216 00:49:16,470 --> 00:49:14,319 um and then biden signs it i don't think 1217 00:49:18,470 --> 00:49:16,480 that's an issue once it goes through but 1218 00:49:21,190 --> 00:49:18,480 dean said around christmas before 1219 00:49:22,950 --> 00:49:21,200 christmas we should get it finalized i'm 1220 00:49:25,829 --> 00:49:22,960 not sure if he covers exactly all those 1221 00:49:27,670 --> 00:49:25,839 details in here 1222 00:49:29,670 --> 00:49:27,680 and 1223 00:49:31,990 --> 00:49:29,680 james says i think we have black tech 2 1224 00:49:33,190 --> 00:49:32,000 even if modest yeah and i really don't 1225 00:49:35,030 --> 00:49:33,200 know it's like 1226 00:49:37,270 --> 00:49:35,040 i won't argue with somebody 1227 00:49:39,670 --> 00:49:37,280 vehemently about it but i mean james 1228 00:49:41,510 --> 00:49:39,680 knows will miller too and 1229 00:49:43,829 --> 00:49:41,520 will's a smart guy and you look at his 1230 00:49:46,630 --> 00:49:43,839 letter to eric davis he was gonna put 1231 00:49:47,990 --> 00:49:46,640 hal put off and eric davis in contact 1232 00:49:51,190 --> 00:49:48,000 with certain people that knew about 1233 00:49:54,150 --> 00:49:51,200 crash retrievals and things like that um 1234 00:49:55,750 --> 00:49:54,160 but i don't know um 1235 00:49:57,349 --> 00:49:55,760 that other article 1236 00:49:58,140 --> 00:49:57,359 yes i have not read it yet i know about 1237 00:49:59,510 --> 00:49:58,150 it um 1238 00:50:01,190 --> 00:49:59,520 [Music] 1239 00:50:02,309 --> 00:50:01,200 i think is that the one in the debrief 1240 00:50:03,910 --> 00:50:02,319 is that the one you're talking about 1241 00:50:06,069 --> 00:50:03,920 that article 1242 00:50:07,430 --> 00:50:06,079 sunny by written by the guy sonny's 1243 00:50:08,790 --> 00:50:07,440 first name 1244 00:50:10,549 --> 00:50:08,800 if it is 1245 00:50:11,670 --> 00:50:10,559 then yes somebody behind the scenes told 1246 00:50:13,670 --> 00:50:11,680 me 1247 00:50:16,390 --> 00:50:13,680 pay attention to that that's an 1248 00:50:18,309 --> 00:50:16,400 interesting article um 1249 00:50:20,150 --> 00:50:18,319 and the claims within it i just need to 1250 00:50:21,349 --> 00:50:20,160 read it first 1251 00:50:22,470 --> 00:50:21,359 assuming that's what you're talking 1252 00:50:24,710 --> 00:50:22,480 about 1253 00:50:26,710 --> 00:50:24,720 yes yes the brief article so yeah i have 1254 00:50:28,790 --> 00:50:26,720 not read it yet i will read it i'll try 1255 00:50:31,030 --> 00:50:28,800 to read it tonight 1256 00:50:32,230 --> 00:50:31,040 yeah it's in exciting times i mean 1257 00:50:33,829 --> 00:50:32,240 maybe somewhere in the black world 1258 00:50:35,990 --> 00:50:33,839 they've already done that you know i 1259 00:50:37,270 --> 00:50:36,000 don't know i don't know i'm open-minded 1260 00:50:39,589 --> 00:50:37,280 to it though 1261 00:50:40,790 --> 00:50:39,599 julie read it i have not read it julie's 1262 00:50:42,549 --> 00:50:40,800 showing off 1263 00:50:45,030 --> 00:50:42,559 thanks julie 1264 00:50:50,150 --> 00:50:48,390 no but it's on my list um 1265 00:50:52,069 --> 00:50:50,160 yeah erica i disagree with erica on 1266 00:50:53,670 --> 00:50:52,079 skinwalker she thinks that skim walker 1267 00:50:55,750 --> 00:50:53,680 is i think she thinks it's military all 1268 00:50:57,589 --> 00:50:55,760 of it um 1269 00:50:58,390 --> 00:50:57,599 and i heard that diana pushed back on 1270 00:51:02,790 --> 00:50:58,400 that 1271 00:51:05,589 --> 00:51:02,800 of it is is military i mean 1272 00:51:09,430 --> 00:51:07,910 i i it doesn't seem like the the 1273 00:51:11,030 --> 00:51:09,440 technology has progressed people have 1274 00:51:12,710 --> 00:51:11,040 had similar experiences since the mid 1275 00:51:15,190 --> 00:51:12,720 90s up until now so it's like why is the 1276 00:51:17,589 --> 00:51:15,200 military still testing the same exact 1277 00:51:19,589 --> 00:51:17,599 technology um 1278 00:51:21,030 --> 00:51:19,599 i don't think it's military i can't 1279 00:51:23,270 --> 00:51:21,040 prove it something's going on at 1280 00:51:25,510 --> 00:51:23,280 skinwalker that's anomalous whether or 1281 00:51:28,309 --> 00:51:25,520 not it's black technology i mean 1282 00:51:33,829 --> 00:51:31,270 hey michael how you doing 1283 00:51:35,430 --> 00:51:33,839 michael troubled minds 1284 00:51:36,980 --> 00:51:35,440 does a show every night at least five 1285 00:51:38,870 --> 00:51:36,990 nights a week michael um 1286 00:51:41,270 --> 00:51:38,880 [Music] 1287 00:51:43,270 --> 00:51:41,280 yeah i have not read that 1288 00:51:44,630 --> 00:51:43,280 there's so many i have so many things i 1289 00:51:47,510 --> 00:51:44,640 have not 1290 00:51:50,790 --> 00:51:49,510 and skin walker and the whole basin has 1291 00:51:53,510 --> 00:51:50,800 a history 1292 00:51:55,270 --> 00:51:53,520 um and it's not just skinwalker but 1293 00:51:56,950 --> 00:51:55,280 i mean people can make the argument all 1294 00:51:58,630 --> 00:51:56,960 day long that is black technology and i 1295 00:52:00,309 --> 00:51:58,640 can't prove it um 1296 00:52:02,950 --> 00:52:00,319 you just have to go back to the 1297 00:52:05,190 --> 00:52:02,960 cases that at least ufo wise cases that 1298 00:52:06,630 --> 00:52:05,200 go back to the 30s allegedly and that 1299 00:52:08,870 --> 00:52:06,640 kind of stuff i don't think we had that 1300 00:52:10,630 --> 00:52:08,880 technology but 1301 00:52:12,870 --> 00:52:10,640 i'm open to being proven wrong i just 1302 00:52:14,790 --> 00:52:12,880 don't give it a high probability of the 1303 00:52:16,470 --> 00:52:14,800 us having that kind of technology that 1304 00:52:18,710 --> 00:52:16,480 long ago 1305 00:52:20,390 --> 00:52:18,720 eric it frustrates you 1306 00:52:22,549 --> 00:52:20,400 yeah um 1307 00:52:23,990 --> 00:52:22,559 eric though erica has really done some 1308 00:52:25,829 --> 00:52:24,000 really great shows great interviews i 1309 00:52:27,430 --> 00:52:25,839 just disagree with her a lot and she's 1310 00:52:29,829 --> 00:52:27,440 not the only one that thinks along those 1311 00:52:30,790 --> 00:52:29,839 lines so it's not just her 1312 00:52:33,349 --> 00:52:30,800 um 1313 00:52:35,910 --> 00:52:33,359 let me get back to 1314 00:52:41,990 --> 00:52:35,920 dean unless you i'll keep i'll keep an 1315 00:52:45,670 --> 00:52:43,829 another important provision this is 1316 00:52:47,109 --> 00:52:45,680 important the bill removes any ambiguity 1317 00:52:49,750 --> 00:52:47,119 about 1318 00:52:51,829 --> 00:52:49,760 whether expending substantial funds for 1319 00:52:53,750 --> 00:52:51,839 uap investigations is authorized by 1320 00:52:55,349 --> 00:52:53,760 congress because the bill explicitly 1321 00:52:57,030 --> 00:52:55,359 authorizes and somebody asked about 1322 00:52:59,670 --> 00:52:57,040 money earlier 1323 00:53:01,349 --> 00:52:59,680 quote to be appropriated such sums as 1324 00:53:03,109 --> 00:53:01,359 may be necessary to carry out the work 1325 00:53:05,510 --> 00:53:03,119 of the uap office that seems like it's 1326 00:53:07,109 --> 00:53:05,520 an open unlimited checkbook including 1327 00:53:08,710 --> 00:53:07,119 with respect to one 1328 00:53:11,510 --> 00:53:08,720 general intelligence 1329 00:53:15,670 --> 00:53:11,520 gathering and intelligence analysis 1330 00:53:20,069 --> 00:53:17,990 strategic defense space defense defense 1331 00:53:22,549 --> 00:53:20,079 of control airspace defense of ground 1332 00:53:23,670 --> 00:53:22,559 air or naval assets and related purposes 1333 00:53:24,549 --> 00:53:23,680 and people are going to read that and 1334 00:53:26,309 --> 00:53:24,559 say 1335 00:53:28,790 --> 00:53:26,319 defense and money see it was a money 1336 00:53:30,230 --> 00:53:28,800 grab the entire time time will tell 1337 00:53:32,230 --> 00:53:30,240 let's see what kind of investigations 1338 00:53:36,470 --> 00:53:32,240 they do 1339 00:53:38,710 --> 00:53:36,480 i'm going to pull up the martin heinrich 1340 00:53:40,230 --> 00:53:38,720 quote that i have 1341 00:53:43,510 --> 00:53:40,240 which it's just a it's just a great 1342 00:53:46,470 --> 00:53:43,520 interview he did before i read and i 1343 00:53:48,150 --> 00:53:46,480 think that's what dean is um 1344 00:53:50,790 --> 00:53:48,160 dean is referring to martin senator 1345 00:53:52,710 --> 00:53:50,800 martin heinrich and by the way 1346 00:53:53,740 --> 00:53:52,720 i did 1347 00:53:55,270 --> 00:53:53,750 i heard from 1348 00:53:58,710 --> 00:53:55,280 [Music] 1349 00:53:59,829 --> 00:53:58,720 my one of my representatives 1350 00:54:01,750 --> 00:53:59,839 that 1351 00:54:02,870 --> 00:54:01,760 i called regarding the gillibrand 1352 00:54:05,190 --> 00:54:02,880 amendment 1353 00:54:07,109 --> 00:54:05,200 i'm gonna pull this up so you guys can 1354 00:54:10,630 --> 00:54:07,119 hear this hopefully you should 1355 00:54:11,910 --> 00:54:10,640 you should be able to hear this 1356 00:54:17,510 --> 00:54:11,920 let me just give one more time so i 1357 00:54:20,470 --> 00:54:19,030 both my representatives but let me play 1358 00:54:22,309 --> 00:54:20,480 this tell me if if you have any sound 1359 00:54:24,230 --> 00:54:22,319 issues let me know this was my favorite 1360 00:54:26,730 --> 00:54:24,240 interview this is a senator who sits on 1361 00:54:28,470 --> 00:54:26,740 the senate select intelligence committee 1362 00:54:30,150 --> 00:54:28,480 [Music] 1363 00:54:31,910 --> 00:54:30,160 what do you think about all this ufo 1364 00:54:33,750 --> 00:54:31,920 stuff going on right now 1365 00:54:35,589 --> 00:54:33,760 uh i think we need to get to the bottom 1366 00:54:39,270 --> 00:54:35,599 of it it's pretty intriguing i don't 1367 00:54:40,789 --> 00:54:39,280 know what it is but anytime you have uh 1368 00:54:44,230 --> 00:54:40,799 legitimate 1369 00:54:47,910 --> 00:54:44,240 uh pilots describing something that 1370 00:54:49,589 --> 00:54:47,920 doesn't seem to conform to uh 1371 00:54:52,710 --> 00:54:49,599 the 1372 00:54:55,430 --> 00:54:52,720 laws of physics that govern aviation 1373 00:54:56,950 --> 00:54:55,440 and is in 1374 00:54:58,390 --> 00:54:56,960 u.s airspace 1375 00:54:59,990 --> 00:54:58,400 i think it's something we need to get to 1376 00:55:02,069 --> 00:55:00,000 the bottom right but you know like they 1377 00:55:03,750 --> 00:55:02,079 always say conspiracies like roswell 1378 00:55:04,870 --> 00:55:03,760 there's a lot of alien bodies in there 1379 00:55:06,230 --> 00:55:04,880 anything like 1380 00:55:07,910 --> 00:55:06,240 can you tell me the truth you're an end 1381 00:55:10,069 --> 00:55:07,920 you're on the intel committee is there 1382 00:55:12,150 --> 00:55:10,079 anything in there all i can say is i've 1383 00:55:13,990 --> 00:55:12,160 never seen the bodies in roswell bigger 1384 00:55:16,549 --> 00:55:14,000 thing to worry about if it's a foreign 1385 00:55:18,470 --> 00:55:16,559 government or if it's aliens oh 1386 00:55:21,670 --> 00:55:18,480 option b much bigger you think the 1387 00:55:24,150 --> 00:55:21,680 aliens would be worse uh i 1388 00:55:27,030 --> 00:55:24,160 i cannot imagine 1389 00:55:28,630 --> 00:55:27,040 if we have uh 1390 00:55:30,789 --> 00:55:28,640 if there is a foreign government that 1391 00:55:31,910 --> 00:55:30,799 had these kinds of capabilities i think 1392 00:55:34,069 --> 00:55:31,920 we would see 1393 00:55:36,309 --> 00:55:34,079 uh other indications of advanced 1394 00:55:39,670 --> 00:55:36,319 technology 1395 00:55:42,710 --> 00:55:39,680 i can't imagine that 1396 00:55:44,390 --> 00:55:42,720 that what has been described or or shown 1397 00:55:47,109 --> 00:55:44,400 in some of the videos 1398 00:55:49,349 --> 00:55:47,119 is of uh 1399 00:55:51,190 --> 00:55:49,359 belongs to any government that 1400 00:55:52,390 --> 00:55:51,200 i'm aware of i'm not really a betting 1401 00:55:55,109 --> 00:55:52,400 man 1402 00:55:56,470 --> 00:55:55,119 but the way uh 1403 00:55:57,430 --> 00:55:56,480 these things 1404 00:55:59,349 --> 00:55:57,440 operate 1405 00:56:02,549 --> 00:55:59,359 you know they certainly 1406 00:56:04,630 --> 00:56:02,559 you wouldn't want a human being or any 1407 00:56:07,030 --> 00:56:04,640 living creature in something that 1408 00:56:09,589 --> 00:56:07,040 moves that fast and changes 1409 00:56:11,270 --> 00:56:09,599 direction that quickly 1410 00:56:12,950 --> 00:56:11,280 so like i said i 1411 00:56:51,270 --> 00:56:12,960 have no idea what it is but i think we 1412 00:56:54,069 --> 00:56:52,710 were you guys able to hear the sound 1413 00:56:55,589 --> 00:56:54,079 from the video 1414 00:56:57,589 --> 00:56:55,599 um 1415 00:57:00,069 --> 00:56:57,599 basically i was saying 1416 00:57:01,670 --> 00:57:00,079 yeah i was muted thanks 1417 00:57:03,349 --> 00:57:01,680 basically i was saying that's really a 1418 00:57:04,390 --> 00:57:03,359 really great interview with heinrich 1419 00:57:07,589 --> 00:57:04,400 saying 1420 00:57:13,910 --> 00:57:10,309 doesn't think it's belongs to a foreign 1421 00:57:15,750 --> 00:57:13,920 adversary and the way it moves and the 1422 00:57:17,750 --> 00:57:15,760 speed 1423 00:57:20,710 --> 00:57:17,760 i want to know what videos he saw and as 1424 00:57:24,630 --> 00:57:22,309 they should be able to share 1425 00:57:26,950 --> 00:57:24,640 what they've seen on those videos 1426 00:57:29,750 --> 00:57:26,960 because it's classified but it does not 1427 00:57:31,349 --> 00:57:29,760 give away sources and methods if you say 1428 00:57:33,589 --> 00:57:31,359 you should have seen the video i saw 1429 00:57:36,150 --> 00:57:33,599 today it was this object and it just 1430 00:57:38,069 --> 00:57:36,160 darted all over the place and just made 1431 00:57:40,150 --> 00:57:38,079 these 90-degree turns it was white you 1432 00:57:41,589 --> 00:57:40,160 know there's no no reason why they can't 1433 00:57:44,470 --> 00:57:41,599 say that 1434 00:57:50,789 --> 00:57:47,829 that is my opinion and i would like to 1435 00:57:53,109 --> 00:57:50,799 ask somebody to ask lou if that's 1436 00:57:56,069 --> 00:57:53,119 if that's a valid 1437 00:57:59,030 --> 00:57:56,079 you know opinion now i 1438 00:58:00,950 --> 00:57:59,040 i need to finish up 1439 00:58:03,190 --> 00:58:00,960 reading more of 1440 00:58:06,789 --> 00:58:03,200 doug's article 1441 00:58:08,950 --> 00:58:06,799 and i'll keep an eye on questions 1442 00:58:10,230 --> 00:58:08,960 so that was you see he goes over he goes 1443 00:58:13,030 --> 00:58:10,240 over the um 1444 00:58:15,270 --> 00:58:13,040 heinrich come on comments 1445 00:58:17,190 --> 00:58:15,280 recently he uh heinrich told albuquerque 1446 00:58:18,710 --> 00:58:17,200 albuquerque journal the american people 1447 00:58:20,470 --> 00:58:18,720 deserve transparency when it comes to 1448 00:58:22,390 --> 00:58:20,480 uaps especially given the national 1449 00:58:23,910 --> 00:58:22,400 security implications we need to elevate 1450 00:58:25,589 --> 00:58:23,920 this issue within our defense and 1451 00:58:27,030 --> 00:58:25,599 intelligence agencies 1452 00:58:28,710 --> 00:58:27,040 so they have to mandate the focus not 1453 00:58:30,549 --> 00:58:28,720 only on what is happening in our skies 1454 00:58:32,950 --> 00:58:30,559 but also on relaying these findings to 1455 00:58:34,789 --> 00:58:32,960 the american people ending the previous 1456 00:58:37,589 --> 00:58:34,799 cycle of sweeping these sightings under 1457 00:58:39,910 --> 00:58:37,599 the rug and then it goes over the tmz 1458 00:58:41,670 --> 00:58:39,920 comments saying i can't imagine that 1459 00:58:42,950 --> 00:58:41,680 belongs to any government i'm aware of i 1460 00:58:45,430 --> 00:58:42,960 mean that's the strongest comment you're 1461 00:58:50,230 --> 00:58:46,950 and the gallego 1462 00:58:51,829 --> 00:58:50,240 language passed the house in september 1463 00:58:54,549 --> 00:58:51,839 that would have required the pentagon 1464 00:58:56,710 --> 00:58:54,559 office to provide quarterly reports 1465 00:58:58,470 --> 00:58:56,720 to certain to designated congressional 1466 00:59:00,549 --> 00:58:58,480 committees but nothing to require 1467 00:59:02,789 --> 00:59:00,559 unclassified reports what i would love 1468 00:59:05,190 --> 00:59:02,799 to have had to incorporate the quarterly 1469 00:59:06,309 --> 00:59:05,200 reports that included unclassified 1470 00:59:08,230 --> 00:59:06,319 reports 1471 00:59:10,150 --> 00:59:08,240 four times a year is not asking for too 1472 00:59:12,390 --> 00:59:10,160 much i think right now it's just once or 1473 00:59:14,710 --> 00:59:12,400 twice i mean that's not enough to me 1474 00:59:16,630 --> 00:59:14,720 likewise modest uap relation provisions 1475 00:59:18,549 --> 00:59:16,640 contained in the intelligence 1476 00:59:20,870 --> 00:59:18,559 authorization act bills approved by the 1477 00:59:22,950 --> 00:59:20,880 senate and house earlier this year 1478 00:59:24,390 --> 00:59:22,960 provided only future classified uap 1479 00:59:27,750 --> 00:59:24,400 reports to the senate and house 1480 00:59:32,230 --> 00:59:30,069 relevant at this point 1481 00:59:34,789 --> 00:59:32,240 in contrast the grg text requires the 1482 00:59:37,190 --> 00:59:34,799 uep office to issue annual yeah so it's 1483 00:59:39,270 --> 00:59:37,200 annual unclassified reports on uap which 1484 00:59:40,710 --> 00:59:39,280 is like once a year 1485 00:59:41,910 --> 00:59:40,720 not enough 1486 00:59:43,430 --> 00:59:41,920 we'll take it for now but it's not 1487 00:59:45,270 --> 00:59:43,440 enough 1488 00:59:46,950 --> 00:59:45,280 and eight congressional committees will 1489 00:59:48,150 --> 00:59:46,960 receive longer classified versions of 1490 00:59:49,990 --> 00:59:48,160 these reports 1491 00:59:51,750 --> 00:59:50,000 and six of those panels will receive 1492 00:59:53,430 --> 00:59:51,760 classified briefings at least twice a 1493 00:59:55,750 --> 00:59:53,440 year so 1494 00:59:57,510 --> 00:59:55,760 unless the phenomenon upsets game we may 1495 00:59:59,750 --> 00:59:57,520 be in a holding pattern pattern for a 1496 01:00:05,990 --> 00:59:59,760 while if we're just you know getting a 1497 01:00:09,190 --> 01:00:07,510 congressman gallego's house pass 1498 01:00:12,309 --> 01:00:09,200 provision required the uap reports to 1499 01:00:14,870 --> 01:00:12,319 cover at least seven designated topics 1500 01:00:16,950 --> 01:00:14,880 the grg text contains all seven and also 1501 01:00:18,789 --> 01:00:16,960 three additional categories drawn from 1502 01:00:21,349 --> 01:00:18,799 grg 1503 01:00:22,710 --> 01:00:21,359 this is the big one for me it's not 1504 01:00:24,549 --> 01:00:22,720 obviously there are a lot of big ones 1505 01:00:26,630 --> 01:00:24,559 with you know your health 1506 01:00:29,030 --> 01:00:26,640 um 1507 01:00:30,390 --> 01:00:29,040 health related effects are huge 1508 01:00:31,430 --> 01:00:30,400 and a place where they can go report 1509 01:00:32,950 --> 01:00:31,440 their 1510 01:00:34,630 --> 01:00:32,960 sightings and encounters without feeling 1511 01:00:36,950 --> 01:00:34,640 stigma but then 1512 01:00:39,109 --> 01:00:36,960 it includes any efforts to underweigh on 1513 01:00:41,349 --> 01:00:39,119 the ability to capture or or exploit 1514 01:00:46,230 --> 01:00:41,359 discovered unidentified aerial phenomena 1515 01:00:49,829 --> 01:00:47,430 like i said i don't know how they're 1516 01:00:51,670 --> 01:00:49,839 going to get into these 1517 01:00:53,430 --> 01:00:51,680 waived unacknowledged special access 1518 01:00:55,270 --> 01:00:53,440 programs but at least the language is in 1519 01:00:56,710 --> 01:00:55,280 there so it's a start 1520 01:00:58,309 --> 01:00:56,720 and also it's going to include as we 1521 01:00:59,430 --> 01:00:58,319 said an assessment of any health-related 1522 01:01:01,430 --> 01:00:59,440 effects for individuals that have 1523 01:01:04,470 --> 01:01:01,440 encountered encountered identified 1524 01:01:06,390 --> 01:01:04,480 aerial phenomena uap and descriptions of 1525 01:01:08,470 --> 01:01:06,400 uap incidents associated with nuclear 1526 01:01:12,069 --> 01:01:08,480 weapons important and nuclear-powered 1527 01:01:15,030 --> 01:01:12,079 craft or domestic nuclear facilities 1528 01:01:17,109 --> 01:01:15,040 and then he just shows the language of 1529 01:01:18,630 --> 01:01:17,119 which which i have in my blog i took i 1530 01:01:20,309 --> 01:01:18,640 copied and pasted and just went through 1531 01:01:21,750 --> 01:01:20,319 all of it and made it look nice which 1532 01:01:23,750 --> 01:01:21,760 was a pain in the neck because it has 1533 01:01:25,589 --> 01:01:23,760 numbers the whole thing is numbered so 1534 01:01:29,910 --> 01:01:25,599 that took a little bit but that's on 1535 01:01:32,069 --> 01:01:29,920 my blog ufojo.net and 1536 01:01:34,630 --> 01:01:32,079 who will be in charge this was new 1537 01:01:37,589 --> 01:01:34,640 information to me because i i know about 1538 01:01:39,270 --> 01:01:37,599 austin and haynes but 1539 01:01:41,030 --> 01:01:39,280 that's secretary of defense lloyd austin 1540 01:01:42,710 --> 01:01:41,040 and secretary deputy secretary of 1541 01:01:45,109 --> 01:01:42,720 defense kathleen hicks that's not that's 1542 01:01:49,990 --> 01:01:45,119 not hanes that's hicks 1543 01:01:55,109 --> 01:01:50,950 um 1544 01:02:01,750 --> 01:01:56,390 yeah and that's 1545 01:02:05,029 --> 01:02:02,050 um 1546 01:02:07,109 --> 01:02:05,039 [Music] 1547 01:02:09,750 --> 01:02:07,119 i asked will miller about access to 1548 01:02:11,510 --> 01:02:09,760 those programs back in 2000 21 years ago 1549 01:02:13,589 --> 01:02:11,520 and he said i would contact my attorney 1550 01:02:15,670 --> 01:02:13,599 general joe and i'm like okay 1551 01:02:17,829 --> 01:02:15,680 it's like 21 years ago it was being 1552 01:02:19,750 --> 01:02:17,839 discussed because 1553 01:02:22,230 --> 01:02:19,760 he brought up he was speaking about 1554 01:02:24,230 --> 01:02:22,240 programs that did not have oversight um 1555 01:02:26,230 --> 01:02:24,240 and there are certain people that 1556 01:02:27,670 --> 01:02:26,240 i think will thinks it's illegal without 1557 01:02:29,349 --> 01:02:27,680 oversight but then you have other people 1558 01:02:31,430 --> 01:02:29,359 saying no it's legal the way they do it 1559 01:02:32,870 --> 01:02:31,440 is legal so i don't know if it's illegal 1560 01:02:35,349 --> 01:02:32,880 that would be another story because we 1561 01:02:37,430 --> 01:02:35,359 can they can create i don't know if they 1562 01:02:40,150 --> 01:02:37,440 even need to create a law to get access 1563 01:02:44,470 --> 01:02:40,160 to an illegal program 1564 01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:49,430 the grg text 1565 01:02:53,589 --> 01:02:52,069 places authority and accountability 1566 01:02:55,190 --> 01:02:53,599 for this whole thing on the secretary of 1567 01:02:57,430 --> 01:02:55,200 defense 1568 01:02:58,950 --> 01:02:57,440 shared to a degree with abra avril 1569 01:03:00,390 --> 01:02:58,960 haynes director of national intelligence 1570 01:03:02,390 --> 01:03:00,400 and the bills mandates will require 1571 01:03:04,390 --> 01:03:02,400 substantial involvement involvement by 1572 01:03:07,109 --> 01:03:04,400 multiple military and ic components and 1573 01:03:08,950 --> 01:03:07,119 substantial resources 1574 01:03:11,029 --> 01:03:08,960 however and this is the problem it 1575 01:03:12,470 --> 01:03:11,039 doesn't doesn't dictate where where the 1576 01:03:16,950 --> 01:03:12,480 where the office will be placed by the 1577 01:03:22,069 --> 01:03:19,109 must place it in an administrator 1578 01:03:23,349 --> 01:03:22,079 oversight function 1579 01:03:24,870 --> 01:03:23,359 it doesn't it doesn't say where it's 1580 01:03:26,789 --> 01:03:24,880 going to be placed where where the 1581 01:03:29,349 --> 01:03:26,799 oversight will come from um but in the 1582 01:03:31,750 --> 01:03:29,359 immediate future dean says 1583 01:03:33,430 --> 01:03:31,760 the central entity will reside within 1584 01:03:35,430 --> 01:03:33,440 the office of the under secretary of 1585 01:03:36,390 --> 01:03:35,440 defense for intelligence and security 1586 01:03:38,309 --> 01:03:36,400 which is 1587 01:03:40,150 --> 01:03:38,319 where lou and chris mellon have said we 1588 01:03:42,230 --> 01:03:40,160 do not want it to be 1589 01:03:44,950 --> 01:03:42,240 and we know this because kathleen hicks 1590 01:03:46,470 --> 01:03:44,960 issued him uh if you issued a memorandum 1591 01:03:48,230 --> 01:03:46,480 directing the under secretary of defense 1592 01:03:52,150 --> 01:03:48,240 for intelligence and security to create 1593 01:03:55,430 --> 01:03:53,349 there's nothing in the bill that would 1594 01:03:57,829 --> 01:03:55,440 force the secretary of defense to change 1595 01:03:59,589 --> 01:03:57,839 that placement although there's also 1596 01:04:01,910 --> 01:03:59,599 nothing to prevent any secretary from 1597 01:04:04,870 --> 01:04:01,920 moving the uap nexus somewhere else if 1598 01:04:06,390 --> 01:04:04,880 he in consultation with the dna dni 1599 01:04:08,069 --> 01:04:06,400 decide that is warranted so that's 1600 01:04:09,829 --> 01:04:08,079 really important that we cannot forget 1601 01:04:11,990 --> 01:04:09,839 about i'm not sure how we can have an 1602 01:04:13,910 --> 01:04:12,000 effect on that i need we need to hear 1603 01:04:15,270 --> 01:04:13,920 from dean and we need to hear from lou 1604 01:04:16,150 --> 01:04:15,280 we need to hear from christopher mellon 1605 01:04:19,670 --> 01:04:16,160 you know 1606 01:04:23,430 --> 01:04:21,510 that's how we find out 1607 01:04:25,589 --> 01:04:23,440 because i'm not smart enough how to know 1608 01:04:28,230 --> 01:04:25,599 how this works to know how we force 1609 01:04:29,990 --> 01:04:28,240 change and force them to not put it in 1610 01:04:31,670 --> 01:04:30,000 you know 1611 01:04:33,430 --> 01:04:31,680 that office where they're talking about 1612 01:04:35,190 --> 01:04:33,440 it right now that lewin mellon said it 1613 01:04:36,710 --> 01:04:35,200 should not reside 1614 01:04:38,870 --> 01:04:36,720 there's nothing in the bill 1615 01:04:40,470 --> 01:04:38,880 so i said that that's the language hicks 1616 01:04:43,430 --> 01:04:40,480 memo was released to the news media as 1617 01:04:45,510 --> 01:04:43,440 congressional negotiation negotiators 1618 01:04:47,029 --> 01:04:45,520 yeah dean was saying he thought it was 1619 01:04:49,349 --> 01:04:47,039 purposely um 1620 01:04:51,349 --> 01:04:49,359 intended to undercut undercut the um 1621 01:04:54,069 --> 01:04:51,359 gillibrand rubio amendment that was 1622 01:04:56,390 --> 01:04:54,079 going on and negotiations and speaking 1623 01:04:58,470 --> 01:04:56,400 of that let me take a break 1624 01:05:00,069 --> 01:04:58,480 from this i want to look at 1625 01:05:02,470 --> 01:05:00,079 if i can find it i want to look at 1626 01:05:04,069 --> 01:05:02,480 there's a really important 1627 01:05:05,430 --> 01:05:04,079 and i've heard stuff from behind the 1628 01:05:07,430 --> 01:05:05,440 scenes that 1629 01:05:09,589 --> 01:05:07,440 there's stuff going on without getting 1630 01:05:12,630 --> 01:05:09,599 specific related to this 1631 01:05:14,630 --> 01:05:12,640 things are changing uh more people are 1632 01:05:15,510 --> 01:05:14,640 getting access to data i'll put it that 1633 01:05:16,950 --> 01:05:15,520 way 1634 01:05:18,390 --> 01:05:16,960 so 1635 01:05:20,069 --> 01:05:18,400 that's a good thing more people are 1636 01:05:23,510 --> 01:05:20,079 taking this seriously 1637 01:05:28,870 --> 01:05:26,630 dean will not be joining us he is 1638 01:05:30,789 --> 01:05:28,880 too busy and 1639 01:05:32,309 --> 01:05:30,799 the brian bender tweet i don't know if 1640 01:05:34,309 --> 01:05:32,319 you guys saw this brian bender if you're 1641 01:05:35,270 --> 01:05:34,319 on twitter you saw it if you're not on 1642 01:05:37,270 --> 01:05:35,280 twitter 1643 01:05:40,870 --> 01:05:37,280 you did not see it and i know a lot of 1644 01:05:45,589 --> 01:05:43,510 are on youtube so let me 1645 01:05:48,950 --> 01:05:45,599 let me read what brian bender said this 1646 01:05:51,430 --> 01:05:50,549 and i i won't pull it up i'll just say 1647 01:05:53,349 --> 01:05:51,440 he said 1648 01:05:55,750 --> 01:05:53,359 bender tweeted i had a conversation last 1649 01:05:57,270 --> 01:05:55,760 weekend with an officia an official in 1650 01:05:59,990 --> 01:05:57,280 the pentagon 1651 01:06:02,309 --> 01:06:00,000 who is about as senior as they come and 1652 01:06:05,430 --> 01:06:02,319 he said this is an issue that is higher 1653 01:06:09,190 --> 01:06:05,440 than ever on the radar and there will be 1654 01:06:10,710 --> 01:06:09,200 little room to obfuscate any more 1655 01:06:12,309 --> 01:06:10,720 so that's exciting because bender's 1656 01:06:14,789 --> 01:06:12,319 usually conservative 1657 01:06:17,029 --> 01:06:14,799 so it's a pentagon official who is as 1658 01:06:18,710 --> 01:06:17,039 bad as senior as they come 1659 01:06:21,270 --> 01:06:18,720 don't know who that is 1660 01:06:23,349 --> 01:06:21,280 um but that's encouraging 1661 01:06:25,029 --> 01:06:23,359 let me go back 1662 01:06:26,630 --> 01:06:25,039 any questions 1663 01:06:28,069 --> 01:06:26,640 i'll just go through some of these only 1664 01:06:29,589 --> 01:06:28,079 way some truth will find out and only a 1665 01:06:31,270 --> 01:06:29,599 minuscule amount will be found through 1666 01:06:32,549 --> 01:06:31,280 private funding yeah i agree i don't 1667 01:06:34,470 --> 01:06:32,559 know if private funding is going to get 1668 01:06:35,190 --> 01:06:34,480 us access to the special access programs 1669 01:06:37,589 --> 01:06:35,200 but 1670 01:06:39,750 --> 01:06:37,599 we can get access to the data at least 1671 01:06:41,109 --> 01:06:39,760 it's it could be a really 1672 01:06:43,109 --> 01:06:41,119 long 1673 01:06:44,630 --> 01:06:43,119 wait i know people who think 1674 01:06:46,470 --> 01:06:44,640 they listen to john ramirez and they 1675 01:06:48,309 --> 01:06:46,480 think that 1676 01:06:49,349 --> 01:06:48,319 disclosure is around the corner i mean 1677 01:06:50,870 --> 01:06:49,359 they're going to be talking about 1678 01:06:52,470 --> 01:06:50,880 hybrids and the information is being 1679 01:06:54,069 --> 01:06:52,480 okayed i mean maybe i'm wrong maybe 1680 01:06:55,990 --> 01:06:54,079 that's going on it doesn't appear to be 1681 01:06:57,829 --> 01:06:56,000 the case it appears we're going very 1682 01:06:59,430 --> 01:06:57,839 very slow and i'm not saying we are 1683 01:07:00,470 --> 01:06:59,440 hybrids i'm just saying 1684 01:07:02,230 --> 01:07:00,480 whatever the 1685 01:07:03,990 --> 01:07:02,240 true story is it's going to take a long 1686 01:07:07,670 --> 01:07:04,000 time i think 1687 01:07:11,349 --> 01:07:07,680 but i can i'm i could be 100 wrong um 1688 01:07:13,589 --> 01:07:11,359 yeah getting access to a sap 1689 01:07:16,789 --> 01:07:13,599 is going to be difficult 1690 01:07:18,230 --> 01:07:16,799 so i don't i do not have the answers 1691 01:07:20,309 --> 01:07:18,240 any of that i don't know how i don't 1692 01:07:21,589 --> 01:07:20,319 know how we're gonna get access but at 1693 01:07:24,230 --> 01:07:21,599 least like i said at least the language 1694 01:07:28,710 --> 01:07:25,829 how far back in time are they gonna be 1695 01:07:30,309 --> 01:07:28,720 allowed to report they talk about 1696 01:07:32,549 --> 01:07:30,319 some of that not specifically in the 1697 01:07:33,510 --> 01:07:32,559 language i will get back to 1698 01:07:35,750 --> 01:07:33,520 um 1699 01:07:38,470 --> 01:07:35,760 it does come up 1700 01:07:40,230 --> 01:07:38,480 just talking about stuff that they 1701 01:07:41,349 --> 01:07:40,240 you know they had not been briefed on i 1702 01:07:43,109 --> 01:07:41,359 don't know i don't know if 1703 01:07:46,950 --> 01:07:43,119 this specific stuff is going to go back 1704 01:07:49,109 --> 01:07:46,960 to 47 or 45 whatever with with um 1705 01:07:51,190 --> 01:07:49,119 trinity but 1706 01:07:53,270 --> 01:07:51,200 you know 1707 01:07:54,470 --> 01:07:53,280 if they're talking about 1708 01:07:56,309 --> 01:07:54,480 talking about 1709 01:07:57,829 --> 01:07:56,319 exploitation any programs that are going 1710 01:07:59,990 --> 01:07:57,839 on it's gonna that will come up 1711 01:08:02,069 --> 01:08:00,000 eventually if somebody gets access to it 1712 01:08:03,190 --> 01:08:02,079 i don't think it's 1713 01:08:04,549 --> 01:08:03,200 you know i've heard stuff behind the 1714 01:08:06,549 --> 01:08:04,559 scenes i don't think it's 1715 01:08:07,990 --> 01:08:06,559 as nefarious as people i use that word a 1716 01:08:10,549 --> 01:08:08,000 lot i don't think it's nefarious a lot 1717 01:08:12,390 --> 01:08:10,559 as far as how it's being kept you know i 1718 01:08:13,750 --> 01:08:12,400 just think the way the system was set up 1719 01:08:16,070 --> 01:08:13,760 and the way it was changed and it just 1720 01:08:18,070 --> 01:08:16,080 makes it so difficult to get access but 1721 01:08:20,550 --> 01:08:18,080 information does come out if you listen 1722 01:08:22,309 --> 01:08:20,560 to eric davis's interviews which i 1723 01:08:24,229 --> 01:08:22,319 transcribe some of the relevant parts he 1724 01:08:26,390 --> 01:08:24,239 talks about how he got information from 1725 01:08:28,470 --> 01:08:26,400 those programs by 1726 01:08:30,470 --> 01:08:28,480 being in a special access program that 1727 01:08:32,789 --> 01:08:30,480 dealt with ufos and meeting other people 1728 01:08:34,390 --> 01:08:32,799 who were in other programs 1729 01:08:35,910 --> 01:08:34,400 that dealt with ufos and they shared 1730 01:08:37,430 --> 01:08:35,920 information that's how that's how you 1731 01:08:39,430 --> 01:08:37,440 find out it doesn't mean he had access 1732 01:08:41,749 --> 01:08:39,440 to those programs that's another story 1733 01:08:45,749 --> 01:08:41,759 but the information can be shared 1734 01:08:47,510 --> 01:08:45,759 and has been shared according to eric um 1735 01:08:48,709 --> 01:08:47,520 so there are six undersecretaries of 1736 01:08:50,229 --> 01:08:48,719 defense 1737 01:08:52,149 --> 01:08:50,239 report directly to the secretary of 1738 01:08:53,349 --> 01:08:52,159 defense deputy deputy secretary of 1739 01:08:55,990 --> 01:08:53,359 defense 1740 01:09:02,390 --> 01:08:56,000 um this stuff gets a little boring i'm 1741 01:09:06,390 --> 01:09:04,630 the chart of who's under who uh the 1742 01:09:08,229 --> 01:09:06,400 current under secretary of defense for 1743 01:09:09,829 --> 01:09:08,239 intelligence insecurities ronald 1744 01:09:12,870 --> 01:09:09,839 moultrie 1745 01:09:15,669 --> 01:09:12,880 a long-time public servant 1746 01:09:17,189 --> 01:09:15,679 so public servants are more likely i'm 1747 01:09:18,950 --> 01:09:17,199 not saying he does but public servants 1748 01:09:20,709 --> 01:09:18,960 are more likely to have access to 1749 01:09:22,470 --> 01:09:20,719 certain special access programs because 1750 01:09:24,229 --> 01:09:22,480 they're not politicians they're not 1751 01:09:25,510 --> 01:09:24,239 appointed they don't leave the job every 1752 01:09:27,990 --> 01:09:25,520 two years 1753 01:09:30,070 --> 01:09:28,000 the lifelong public servants are the 1754 01:09:32,709 --> 01:09:30,080 folks i forget the wording that will 1755 01:09:34,789 --> 01:09:32,719 miller use to describe it or stephen 1756 01:09:36,709 --> 01:09:34,799 greer he there's a word 1757 01:09:38,070 --> 01:09:36,719 um but yeah the folks that are in for a 1758 01:09:39,510 --> 01:09:38,080 long period of time those are the folks 1759 01:09:41,269 --> 01:09:39,520 that get access to some of these 1760 01:09:43,110 --> 01:09:41,279 programs 1761 01:09:45,430 --> 01:09:43,120 um i'm not but i'm not saying that he's 1762 01:09:46,789 --> 01:09:45,440 one of them 1763 01:09:49,590 --> 01:09:46,799 so 1764 01:09:54,390 --> 01:09:49,600 i'm gonna let's see any questions 1765 01:09:58,150 --> 01:09:56,229 yeah i 1766 01:10:00,950 --> 01:09:58,160 i did not catch dolan's um 1767 01:10:02,550 --> 01:10:00,960 [Music] 1768 01:10:04,790 --> 01:10:02,560 show 1769 01:10:07,110 --> 01:10:04,800 and 1770 01:10:09,110 --> 01:10:07,120 twitter is a joy but i've told people if 1771 01:10:10,229 --> 01:10:09,120 you want to go on twitter and not deal 1772 01:10:13,350 --> 01:10:10,239 with 1773 01:10:14,870 --> 01:10:13,360 it's been good lately but um 1774 01:10:17,510 --> 01:10:14,880 because some of the people have gone to 1775 01:10:19,030 --> 01:10:17,520 discord which is fine go to discord i 1776 01:10:20,390 --> 01:10:19,040 mean 1777 01:10:21,750 --> 01:10:20,400 we've been accused certain people on 1778 01:10:23,669 --> 01:10:21,760 twitter have been accused of not being 1779 01:10:26,070 --> 01:10:23,679 able to handle an opposing viewpoint 1780 01:10:27,750 --> 01:10:26,080 which is not true it's just 1781 01:10:29,350 --> 01:10:27,760 i just want you to back up some of your 1782 01:10:31,030 --> 01:10:29,360 claims and you know people are still 1783 01:10:32,709 --> 01:10:31,040 claiming that lou i know lou and chris 1784 01:10:33,669 --> 01:10:32,719 are part of a part of a psyop and it's 1785 01:10:34,950 --> 01:10:33,679 like 1786 01:10:36,229 --> 01:10:34,960 people say you want to live in an echo 1787 01:10:38,870 --> 01:10:36,239 chamber and only listen to people who 1788 01:10:41,189 --> 01:10:38,880 you agree with it's not true it's just 1789 01:10:42,790 --> 01:10:41,199 you've been i just i want to focus more 1790 01:10:44,390 --> 01:10:42,800 on what we're dealing with not that i 1791 01:10:46,950 --> 01:10:44,400 can figure it out but i don't want to 1792 01:10:48,630 --> 01:10:46,960 spend all day long trying to debate you 1793 01:10:51,270 --> 01:10:48,640 know 1794 01:10:52,870 --> 01:10:51,280 somebody that was dave felch on twitter 1795 01:10:54,630 --> 01:10:52,880 yesterday saying he doesn't trust 1796 01:10:57,110 --> 01:10:54,640 anything lou says i'm like okay i'm not 1797 01:10:58,630 --> 01:10:57,120 going to spend time on that so 1798 01:11:00,709 --> 01:10:58,640 yeah it's a smell it's a snail paste 1799 01:11:02,310 --> 01:11:00,719 where we're at but there are bursts of 1800 01:11:04,149 --> 01:11:02,320 progress i mean i don't see this as a 1801 01:11:05,830 --> 01:11:04,159 burst this is a big deal but it took a 1802 01:11:08,630 --> 01:11:05,840 while to get to this point for this 1803 01:11:11,189 --> 01:11:08,640 language um 1804 01:11:13,189 --> 01:11:11,199 nasa email i don't yeah i can't look at 1805 01:11:15,270 --> 01:11:13,199 it right to second although 1806 01:11:19,990 --> 01:11:15,280 i could read it on the air but let me 1807 01:11:23,669 --> 01:11:21,270 if you have any questions like i said 1808 01:11:27,750 --> 01:11:23,679 about anything 1809 01:11:31,270 --> 01:11:27,760 let me know i will try to see what 1810 01:11:33,669 --> 01:11:31,280 john has on his side about nasa i mean i 1811 01:11:35,510 --> 01:11:33,679 know we had something recently 1812 01:11:36,790 --> 01:11:35,520 that nasa was the uap and there was 1813 01:11:38,950 --> 01:11:36,800 something about nasa i did not get to 1814 01:11:41,110 --> 01:11:38,960 read it it was on reddit it's probably 1815 01:11:42,709 --> 01:11:41,120 what it was somebody on reddit had this 1816 01:11:44,390 --> 01:11:42,719 the uap email 1817 01:11:45,189 --> 01:11:44,400 related emails 1818 01:11:46,870 --> 01:11:45,199 which 1819 01:11:48,229 --> 01:11:46,880 i can bring up 1820 01:11:50,709 --> 01:11:48,239 let me just bring up the page but i 1821 01:11:58,390 --> 01:11:50,719 don't know what it says 1822 01:12:04,390 --> 01:12:00,790 so that's his article and i saw this on 1823 01:12:09,910 --> 01:12:06,709 but i didn't get a chance to read it 1824 01:12:11,830 --> 01:12:09,920 that's a communications 1825 01:12:14,870 --> 01:12:11,840 see 1826 01:12:16,550 --> 01:12:14,880 so they came to the foia oh it's a video 1827 01:12:17,590 --> 01:12:16,560 darn it all right 1828 01:12:19,030 --> 01:12:17,600 i thought it was i thought it was 1829 01:12:21,030 --> 01:12:19,040 documents 1830 01:12:22,950 --> 01:12:21,040 i'm not gonna play his video 1831 01:12:24,550 --> 01:12:22,960 that's not right by somebody's video i 1832 01:12:26,070 --> 01:12:24,560 mean the videos i usually play are older 1833 01:12:27,669 --> 01:12:26,080 videos i'm not going to play his video 1834 01:12:29,510 --> 01:12:27,679 and take away from views and that stuff 1835 01:12:31,750 --> 01:12:29,520 and somebody's done work on it i'll have 1836 01:12:33,030 --> 01:12:31,760 to check it out later 1837 01:12:39,590 --> 01:12:33,040 and 1838 01:12:42,070 --> 01:12:39,600 dean was take dean took a shot at la 1839 01:12:44,390 --> 01:12:42,080 lazar um 1840 01:12:46,390 --> 01:12:44,400 yeah mule there are ways though you can 1841 01:12:47,669 --> 01:12:46,400 be on twitter well i guess if you want 1842 01:12:48,870 --> 01:12:47,679 to just be open and talk about whatever 1843 01:12:50,790 --> 01:12:48,880 you want then it doesn't matter people 1844 01:12:52,630 --> 01:12:50,800 are going to take shots i mean and i am 1845 01:12:56,310 --> 01:12:52,640 in the middle on on 1846 01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:59,750 on 1847 01:13:02,709 --> 01:13:00,790 lazar 1848 01:13:04,470 --> 01:13:02,719 and 1849 01:13:05,990 --> 01:13:04,480 i think it was last year when the when i 1850 01:13:08,070 --> 01:13:06,000 got too excited and i thought we were 1851 01:13:09,910 --> 01:13:08,080 gonna get access to the 1852 01:13:12,229 --> 01:13:09,920 intact craft and the special access 1853 01:13:15,510 --> 01:13:12,239 program and i wanted to bet on that and 1854 01:13:16,870 --> 01:13:15,520 glad i didn't and i thought that um 1855 01:13:18,630 --> 01:13:16,880 you know lazar we were gonna find the 1856 01:13:20,310 --> 01:13:18,640 truth about lazar and i started leaning 1857 01:13:21,669 --> 01:13:20,320 to more a lot more towards him being 1858 01:13:23,350 --> 01:13:21,679 truthful but i don't know like you know 1859 01:13:26,149 --> 01:13:23,360 people know who read my article i was 1860 01:13:29,110 --> 01:13:26,159 pretty 50 50. eric davis is 100 against 1861 01:13:30,550 --> 01:13:29,120 them john alexander 100 against him 1862 01:13:34,630 --> 01:13:30,560 dean johnson who's written this article 1863 01:13:37,430 --> 01:13:34,640 100 against lazar um you know you have 1864 01:13:39,189 --> 01:13:37,440 corbell and knapp who support lazar so i 1865 01:13:40,310 --> 01:13:39,199 don't know and and it's not a question 1866 01:13:42,149 --> 01:13:40,320 of me 1867 01:13:43,750 --> 01:13:42,159 you know if i'm close friends with if 1868 01:13:45,350 --> 01:13:43,760 i'm friends with nap or corbell i'm not 1869 01:13:47,910 --> 01:13:45,360 afraid to say i don't believe lazar if i 1870 01:13:50,070 --> 01:13:47,920 don't believe him and i'm wondering 100 1871 01:13:52,229 --> 01:13:50,080 convinced i'll say so i don't those guys 1872 01:13:54,149 --> 01:13:52,239 do not take offense to that despite what 1873 01:13:56,390 --> 01:13:54,159 some may think thanks for being here 1874 01:13:58,550 --> 01:13:56,400 james 1875 01:14:01,430 --> 01:13:58,560 um but yeah 1876 01:14:03,750 --> 01:14:01,440 lazarus is a red herring right now 1877 01:14:06,870 --> 01:14:03,760 as far as this i mean obviously if we 1878 01:14:08,790 --> 01:14:06,880 have nine craft you know 1879 01:14:11,990 --> 01:14:08,800 and and doug was 1880 01:14:13,750 --> 01:14:12,000 doug johnson who wrote the article dean 1881 01:14:14,950 --> 01:14:13,760 douglas dean johnson wrote the article 1882 01:14:17,189 --> 01:14:14,960 he brought up lazar which i did not 1883 01:14:19,350 --> 01:14:17,199 think he needed to do um 1884 01:14:21,110 --> 01:14:19,360 and he and i think his response was well 1885 01:14:23,669 --> 01:14:21,120 if lazar is telling the truth and there 1886 01:14:25,510 --> 01:14:23,679 are nine craft and this is all a facade 1887 01:14:27,910 --> 01:14:25,520 this is all you know why we're wasting 1888 01:14:30,229 --> 01:14:27,920 our time well because we can't whatever 1889 01:14:31,830 --> 01:14:30,239 craft we may or may not have we have no 1890 01:14:34,310 --> 01:14:31,840 access to it so it doesn't really matter 1891 01:14:36,070 --> 01:14:34,320 so we have to do this yes 1892 01:14:37,430 --> 01:14:36,080 a lot of people certain people certain 1893 01:14:39,750 --> 01:14:37,440 people in the government 1894 01:14:41,430 --> 01:14:39,760 certain people know a hell of a lot more 1895 01:14:43,030 --> 01:14:41,440 but we don't have access to it so we 1896 01:14:45,430 --> 01:14:43,040 have to do this it seems like we're 1897 01:14:47,189 --> 01:14:45,440 starting from scratch but at least now 1898 01:14:49,430 --> 01:14:47,199 whatever technology whatever data was 1899 01:14:51,590 --> 01:14:49,440 collected over the decades we have more 1900 01:14:53,350 --> 01:14:51,600 we have more we have more advanced 1901 01:14:54,950 --> 01:14:53,360 technology so 1902 01:14:57,110 --> 01:14:54,960 it's going to be different data that we 1903 01:14:58,390 --> 01:14:57,120 do not have but still it is like 1904 01:15:00,550 --> 01:14:58,400 starting from scratch if we're not 1905 01:15:02,390 --> 01:15:00,560 getting access to that data in the data 1906 01:15:04,070 --> 01:15:02,400 warehouse that eric davis talked about 1907 01:15:06,149 --> 01:15:04,080 that jeremy corbell talked about and 1908 01:15:08,390 --> 01:15:06,159 they're not talking about the awesome 1909 01:15:13,110 --> 01:15:08,400 data warehouse that that jacques volley 1910 01:15:17,189 --> 01:15:15,110 so yeah it's it's hard to bring up it's 1911 01:15:19,110 --> 01:15:17,199 really hard to bring up 1912 01:15:21,430 --> 01:15:19,120 lazar and then people bring up he's a 1913 01:15:22,950 --> 01:15:21,440 felon and like you know eric brings it 1914 01:15:25,350 --> 01:15:22,960 up too so 1915 01:15:27,189 --> 01:15:25,360 um so i try not to talk about it too 1916 01:15:28,390 --> 01:15:27,199 much 1917 01:15:37,669 --> 01:15:28,400 i don't 1918 01:15:39,750 --> 01:15:37,679 i think i'm waiting for it to see what 1919 01:15:40,790 --> 01:15:39,760 kind of media coverage comes from this 1920 01:15:41,130 --> 01:15:40,800 story 1921 01:15:43,270 --> 01:15:41,140 um 1922 01:15:44,950 --> 01:15:43,280 [Music] 1923 01:15:46,709 --> 01:15:44,960 but i don't know if it's gonna if we're 1924 01:15:49,350 --> 01:15:46,719 gonna have to wait 1925 01:15:51,830 --> 01:15:49,360 becomes 1926 01:15:54,229 --> 01:15:51,840 law and it's past 100 and it gets signed 1927 01:15:55,510 --> 01:15:54,239 into law then maybe then maybe we'll get 1928 01:15:57,030 --> 01:15:55,520 the massive coverage i don't know i 1929 01:15:59,910 --> 01:15:57,040 would think so 1930 01:16:03,270 --> 01:15:59,920 you know the aoi msg got some decent 1931 01:16:06,550 --> 01:16:03,280 coverage this has not gotten coverage 1932 01:16:08,310 --> 01:16:06,560 let's see so 1933 01:16:09,990 --> 01:16:08,320 given the under secretary multry is the 1934 01:16:12,310 --> 01:16:10,000 senior intelligence advisor to secretary 1935 01:16:13,270 --> 01:16:12,320 of defense austin 1936 01:16:17,270 --> 01:16:13,280 um 1937 01:16:19,750 --> 01:16:17,280 he may pass off this oversight to deputy 1938 01:16:21,430 --> 01:16:19,760 his deputy david m taylor who will play 1939 01:16:24,630 --> 01:16:21,440 it may play a more direct role in 1940 01:16:26,470 --> 01:16:24,640 supervising the aoi msg which i hope 1941 01:16:28,630 --> 01:16:26,480 gets we get rid of that 1942 01:16:30,390 --> 01:16:28,640 um 1943 01:16:31,990 --> 01:16:30,400 but taylor is a member of the senior 1944 01:16:33,510 --> 01:16:32,000 executive services which is civilian 1945 01:16:35,189 --> 01:16:33,520 with the civilian rank equivalent to a 1946 01:16:36,070 --> 01:16:35,199 two-star general 1947 01:16:37,830 --> 01:16:36,080 um 1948 01:16:40,950 --> 01:16:37,840 which is interesting 1949 01:16:42,149 --> 01:16:40,960 he's been at oas os ousd since 2010 he 1950 01:16:43,830 --> 01:16:42,159 actually ran it for the first four 1951 01:16:46,390 --> 01:16:43,840 months of the biden administration 1952 01:16:48,470 --> 01:16:46,400 before moultrie was confirmed 1953 01:16:50,390 --> 01:16:48,480 he also served in the navy for 30 years 1954 01:16:53,030 --> 01:16:50,400 as a flight officer his final navy 1955 01:16:54,790 --> 01:16:53,040 assignment was as chief of staff for the 1956 01:16:58,550 --> 01:16:54,800 carrier strike group 11 aboard the 1957 01:17:00,470 --> 01:16:58,560 aircraft carrier uss nimitz 1958 01:17:03,030 --> 01:17:00,480 an assignment that the he received in 1959 01:17:04,950 --> 01:17:03,040 earlier 2008 so i wonder if he was he 1960 01:17:07,030 --> 01:17:04,960 was on there in 2008 if the if the tic 1961 01:17:08,630 --> 01:17:07,040 tac story was still being talked about 1962 01:17:11,030 --> 01:17:08,640 and if he knows about that at all would 1963 01:17:12,790 --> 01:17:11,040 be interesting 1964 01:17:14,310 --> 01:17:12,800 uh he has 1965 01:17:15,350 --> 01:17:14,320 when he left the navy had the rank of 1966 01:17:16,709 --> 01:17:15,360 captain 1967 01:17:18,229 --> 01:17:16,719 um 1968 01:17:22,470 --> 01:17:18,239 and he broke he worked for northrop 1969 01:17:23,669 --> 01:17:22,480 grumman aerospace before joining ousd 1970 01:17:26,149 --> 01:17:23,679 i'm trying to think there's anything 1971 01:17:28,229 --> 01:17:26,159 else this is a really really long 1972 01:17:31,830 --> 01:17:28,239 article 1973 01:17:34,149 --> 01:17:31,840 this is basically now the civilian 1974 01:17:35,990 --> 01:17:34,159 committee he says dean says 1975 01:17:37,430 --> 01:17:36,000 and it was supposed to be the scu this 1976 01:17:39,590 --> 01:17:37,440 you know scientific coalition for 1977 01:17:42,149 --> 01:17:39,600 ufology studying mythology and 1978 01:17:44,630 --> 01:17:42,159 the guy galileo with avi loeb that was 1979 01:17:46,630 --> 01:17:44,640 going to be part of that committee so 1980 01:17:49,189 --> 01:17:46,640 dean talks about how that was not it was 1981 01:17:52,310 --> 01:17:49,199 dropped by the house senate negotiators 1982 01:17:55,030 --> 01:17:52,320 and he thinks it's because 1983 01:17:57,030 --> 01:17:55,040 folks in the intel world were saying 1984 01:17:59,430 --> 01:17:57,040 you know that would be a security risk 1985 01:18:00,390 --> 01:17:59,440 and get rid of it um 1986 01:18:02,950 --> 01:18:00,400 but 1987 01:18:05,110 --> 01:18:02,960 as dean says the gillibrand rubio 1988 01:18:06,870 --> 01:18:05,120 amendment specifically said that every 1989 01:18:09,430 --> 01:18:06,880 member of that committee would have a 1990 01:18:12,149 --> 01:18:09,440 secret clearance they would must qualify 1991 01:18:13,110 --> 01:18:12,159 for secret clearance so that you know 1992 01:18:15,110 --> 01:18:13,120 they would have been bound by 1993 01:18:17,110 --> 01:18:15,120 classification laws 1994 01:18:19,990 --> 01:18:17,120 include that include stringent criminal 1995 01:18:21,750 --> 01:18:20,000 penalty penalties for violations so 1996 01:18:23,590 --> 01:18:21,760 but dean says he doesn't have a smoking 1997 01:18:25,430 --> 01:18:23,600 gun to prove that's why they took that 1998 01:18:27,590 --> 01:18:25,440 out of the bill he goes 1999 01:18:29,910 --> 01:18:27,600 but the gunpowder is strong i'm betting 2000 01:18:33,060 --> 01:18:29,920 there's one laying around somewhere so 2001 01:18:34,950 --> 01:18:33,070 that's and i've i've heard similar too 2002 01:18:36,870 --> 01:18:34,960 [Music] 2003 01:18:37,990 --> 01:18:36,880 also among some of those in government 2004 01:18:39,990 --> 01:18:38,000 media who are sympathetic to 2005 01:18:41,910 --> 01:18:40,000 forward-leaning uap investigations i 2006 01:18:43,590 --> 01:18:41,920 perceive awareness towards this is where 2007 01:18:45,750 --> 01:18:43,600 he gets into lazar 2008 01:18:48,390 --> 01:18:45,760 they're wary to work with civilian ufo 2009 01:18:50,790 --> 01:18:48,400 folks because bob lazar and evil jeremy 2010 01:18:52,390 --> 01:18:50,800 corbell and george knapp it's ridiculous 2011 01:18:55,270 --> 01:18:52,400 to bring that up i'm sorry 2012 01:18:57,189 --> 01:18:55,280 it's just not i don't see that stuff 2013 01:18:59,590 --> 01:18:57,199 talked about that much um 2014 01:19:01,830 --> 01:18:59,600 i understand his point but uf ufology 2015 01:19:02,950 --> 01:19:01,840 has a problem but 2016 01:19:03,910 --> 01:19:02,960 um 2017 01:19:05,430 --> 01:19:03,920 yeah 2018 01:19:06,870 --> 01:19:05,440 i don't even want to talk about lazar i 2019 01:19:07,669 --> 01:19:06,880 just i don't think it has a place in 2020 01:19:09,110 --> 01:19:07,679 this 2021 01:19:10,950 --> 01:19:09,120 what i heard was 2022 01:19:12,630 --> 01:19:10,960 i think dean's first 2023 01:19:14,870 --> 01:19:12,640 comment about it then thinking it's a 2024 01:19:16,870 --> 01:19:14,880 classified issue all these civilians are 2025 01:19:21,990 --> 01:19:16,880 going to share classified information 2026 01:19:25,669 --> 01:19:24,790 we go the scope of the term 2027 01:19:27,189 --> 01:19:25,679 so 2028 01:19:31,910 --> 01:19:27,199 under the house 2029 01:19:33,590 --> 01:19:31,920 only going to be uh objects witnessed by 2030 01:19:35,990 --> 01:19:33,600 a pilot or air crew member that are not 2031 01:19:37,910 --> 01:19:36,000 immediate immediately identifiable under 2032 01:19:39,750 --> 01:19:37,920 that definition a giant glowing disc 2033 01:19:42,229 --> 01:19:39,760 entering a sea next to a surface 2034 01:19:45,270 --> 01:19:42,239 submarine or hovering over a minuteman 2035 01:19:48,229 --> 01:19:45,280 iii silo would not have constituted uap 2036 01:19:53,030 --> 01:19:51,270 under uh gillibrand rubio 2037 01:19:55,430 --> 01:19:53,040 gallego 2038 01:19:57,990 --> 01:19:55,440 ufp would be 2039 01:20:00,070 --> 01:19:58,000 unidentified airborne objects 2040 01:20:02,790 --> 01:20:00,080 trans medium objects 2041 01:20:05,189 --> 01:20:02,800 you know from space to the atmosphere 2042 01:20:07,030 --> 01:20:05,199 atmosphere to water vice versa and 2043 01:20:08,550 --> 01:20:07,040 submerged objects or devices that are 2044 01:20:10,550 --> 01:20:08,560 not immediately identifiable and that 2045 01:20:12,229 --> 01:20:10,560 display behavior performance 2046 01:20:13,990 --> 01:20:12,239 characteristics suggesting that they may 2047 01:20:15,830 --> 01:20:14,000 be related to unidentified aerial or 2048 01:20:17,430 --> 01:20:15,840 trans medium objects so that covers a 2049 01:20:18,390 --> 01:20:17,440 lot of stuff thank god they got rid of 2050 01:20:20,229 --> 01:20:18,400 the original 2051 01:20:21,830 --> 01:20:20,239 house language 2052 01:20:24,950 --> 01:20:21,840 and then he talks about how the 2053 01:20:26,470 --> 01:20:24,960 legislation took place which is you know 2054 01:20:28,070 --> 01:20:26,480 for most people don't want to hear about 2055 01:20:29,189 --> 01:20:28,080 last you know what happened and how it 2056 01:20:31,110 --> 01:20:29,199 became law 2057 01:20:33,750 --> 01:20:31,120 we just want to know how it's 2058 01:20:35,750 --> 01:20:33,760 you know how it's going to be finalized 2059 01:20:38,470 --> 01:20:35,760 because it's not a done deal yet but 2060 01:20:38,480 --> 01:20:43,669 any questions watching early 2061 01:20:47,510 --> 01:20:45,510 so the fact dean says the fact that most 2062 01:20:49,750 --> 01:20:47,520 of the strongest uap related components 2063 01:20:52,229 --> 01:20:49,760 emerged from these negotiations even in 2064 01:20:53,669 --> 01:20:52,239 the face of hostility from some enclaves 2065 01:20:55,669 --> 01:20:53,679 within the dod 2066 01:20:57,910 --> 01:20:55,679 is a testament not only to the prime 2067 01:20:59,750 --> 01:20:57,920 sponsors of gillibrand and gallego but 2068 01:21:01,189 --> 01:20:59,760 also to the quiet but essential support 2069 01:21:02,629 --> 01:21:01,199 of the democratic 2070 01:21:05,270 --> 01:21:02,639 chairman of the senate and house 2071 01:21:07,270 --> 01:21:05,280 committees on armed services senator 2072 01:21:09,189 --> 01:21:07,280 jack reed who's a democrat out of rhode 2073 01:21:10,629 --> 01:21:09,199 island congressman adam smith democrat 2074 01:21:12,229 --> 01:21:10,639 out of washington 2075 01:21:14,870 --> 01:21:12,239 and the republican ranking members of 2076 01:21:17,830 --> 01:21:14,880 those committees senator jim 2077 01:21:20,149 --> 01:21:17,840 inhofe republican out of oklahoma and 2078 01:21:22,310 --> 01:21:20,159 congressman mike rogers a republican out 2079 01:21:24,470 --> 01:21:22,320 of alabama as well as the bipartisan 2080 01:21:26,709 --> 01:21:24,480 leadership of the house and senate 2081 01:21:28,229 --> 01:21:26,719 intelligence committees 2082 01:21:30,470 --> 01:21:28,239 following and this is a quote i had 2083 01:21:31,910 --> 01:21:30,480 never seen before you guys may have seen 2084 01:21:33,830 --> 01:21:31,920 it following the release of a 2085 01:21:36,390 --> 01:21:33,840 congressionally requested unclassified 2086 01:21:38,950 --> 01:21:36,400 report on the uap back in 2087 01:21:40,790 --> 01:21:38,960 june 25th 2088 01:21:43,430 --> 01:21:40,800 chairman reed 2089 01:21:44,229 --> 01:21:43,440 so jack reed democrat from republican 2090 01:21:46,310 --> 01:21:44,239 uh 2091 01:21:48,229 --> 01:21:46,320 democrat from rhode island chairman reid 2092 01:21:50,470 --> 01:21:48,239 issued a statement 2093 01:21:53,110 --> 01:21:50,480 that quote we simply lack the 2094 01:21:55,669 --> 01:21:53,120 information necessary to determine what 2095 01:21:58,070 --> 01:21:55,679 these objects are and what they're doing 2096 01:22:00,229 --> 01:21:58,080 so we need to get that information let's 2097 01:22:02,149 --> 01:22:00,239 keep watching the skies studying and 2098 01:22:04,229 --> 01:22:02,159 learning if the government acquires 2099 01:22:06,390 --> 01:22:04,239 evidence of things it can't explain 2100 01:22:09,669 --> 01:22:06,400 let's examine it from every angle and be 2101 01:22:10,390 --> 01:22:09,679 forthright with the american people 2102 01:22:13,830 --> 01:22:10,400 if 2103 01:22:17,030 --> 01:22:13,840 great i had never seen that quote before 2104 01:22:19,270 --> 01:22:17,040 um we need more people like him 2105 01:22:23,030 --> 01:22:19,280 this is just more people that he had 2106 01:22:26,629 --> 01:22:25,110 and and dean says you know senator 2107 01:22:28,070 --> 01:22:26,639 co-sponsoring the gila brown amendment 2108 01:22:29,270 --> 01:22:28,080 was very important to his republican 2109 01:22:31,590 --> 01:22:29,280 colleagues 2110 01:22:33,430 --> 01:22:31,600 um 2111 01:22:34,390 --> 01:22:33,440 and he was publicly vocal on the uap 2112 01:22:35,830 --> 01:22:34,400 issue 2113 01:22:37,430 --> 01:22:35,840 he's still the vice chairman of the 2114 01:22:39,110 --> 01:22:37,440 senate select intelligence committee so 2115 01:22:41,270 --> 01:22:39,120 rubio was very important him speaking up 2116 01:22:43,270 --> 01:22:41,280 was very important 2117 01:22:44,470 --> 01:22:43,280 and bean says a striking degree of quiet 2118 01:22:46,070 --> 01:22:44,480 consensus 2119 01:22:48,390 --> 01:22:46,080 that has developed on the uip issue 2120 01:22:49,830 --> 01:22:48,400 particularly among particularly among 2121 01:22:51,510 --> 01:22:49,840 members of the congressional committees 2122 01:22:53,350 --> 01:22:51,520 that have the greatest access to 2123 01:22:55,350 --> 01:22:53,360 pertinent classified information which 2124 01:22:58,149 --> 01:22:55,360 makes sense because if they've seen the 2125 01:23:00,790 --> 01:22:58,159 23 minute video or video or whatever 2126 01:23:03,110 --> 01:23:00,800 other videos that we have not seen 2127 01:23:04,629 --> 01:23:03,120 they would say whatever this is 2128 01:23:07,189 --> 01:23:04,639 we need to figure out what the hell this 2129 01:23:09,030 --> 01:23:07,199 is because that does not look like human 2130 01:23:10,870 --> 01:23:09,040 technology so 2131 01:23:12,470 --> 01:23:10,880 but i'm speculating i mean lou has 2132 01:23:13,910 --> 01:23:12,480 spoken about how people left the 2133 01:23:16,950 --> 01:23:13,920 briefings saying 2134 01:23:18,950 --> 01:23:16,960 you know that's not ours um when 2135 01:23:20,870 --> 01:23:18,960 lawmakers who do not sit on national 2136 01:23:22,470 --> 01:23:20,880 security committees see such bipartisan 2137 01:23:23,910 --> 01:23:22,480 consensus on a matter involving 2138 01:23:26,070 --> 01:23:23,920 classified info 2139 01:23:28,229 --> 01:23:26,080 most usually it will def it will defer 2140 01:23:29,189 --> 01:23:28,239 to it 2141 01:23:30,390 --> 01:23:29,199 he says 2142 01:23:32,390 --> 01:23:30,400 the house services committee armed 2143 01:23:33,910 --> 01:23:32,400 services committee when i incorporated 2144 01:23:37,510 --> 01:23:33,920 gallegos language into the version of 2145 01:23:39,350 --> 01:23:37,520 the ndaa every one of the house 40 435 2146 01:23:40,470 --> 01:23:39,360 members had the opportunity to ask for 2147 01:23:42,950 --> 01:23:40,480 permission 2148 01:23:44,790 --> 01:23:42,960 you know for specific ndaa amendments on 2149 01:23:47,110 --> 01:23:44,800 the floor 2150 01:23:50,310 --> 01:23:47,120 the house rules committee received 860 2151 01:23:52,790 --> 01:23:50,320 such amendment requests but not one 2152 01:23:55,750 --> 01:23:52,800 touched the uap section not one of them 2153 01:23:57,750 --> 01:23:55,760 so it went straight through 2154 01:23:59,350 --> 01:23:57,760 likewise on the senate the matter 2155 01:24:00,950 --> 01:23:59,360 advanced quietly although senator 2156 01:24:02,550 --> 01:24:00,960 gillibrand tweeted and gave several 2157 01:24:05,189 --> 01:24:02,560 interviews on the subject there was no 2158 01:24:07,270 --> 01:24:05,199 visible opposition from any senator nor 2159 01:24:08,870 --> 01:24:07,280 any discussion of uap on the senate 2160 01:24:10,709 --> 01:24:08,880 floor i don't know if they don't want to 2161 01:24:12,709 --> 01:24:10,719 if they're afraid to talk about it or 2162 01:24:14,709 --> 01:24:12,719 they just you know they're like 2163 01:24:16,070 --> 01:24:14,719 we've heard this is serious this needs 2164 01:24:17,830 --> 01:24:16,080 to go through i don't know which is 2165 01:24:20,470 --> 01:24:17,840 which is which but it it's going through 2166 01:24:23,030 --> 01:24:20,480 so a good thing 2167 01:24:27,910 --> 01:24:23,040 um i'll stop there and just take some 2168 01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:33,910 it's hard to navigate some of these 2169 01:24:36,950 --> 01:24:35,350 seem like me there are more republicans 2170 01:24:38,550 --> 01:24:36,960 moving ahead in support nope that's not 2171 01:24:39,990 --> 01:24:38,560 true it's not true that's what i just 2172 01:24:42,149 --> 01:24:40,000 read that's what dean is talking about 2173 01:24:45,030 --> 01:24:42,159 somebody said that mule and dean was 2174 01:24:46,629 --> 01:24:45,040 like nope it's democrat and republican 2175 01:24:50,070 --> 01:24:46,639 especially heinrich democrato i just 2176 01:24:52,470 --> 01:24:50,080 played the video it was very vocal um 2177 01:24:54,790 --> 01:24:52,480 so i don't know about if the democrats i 2178 01:24:56,070 --> 01:24:54,800 mentioned are progressive democrats i 2179 01:24:57,110 --> 01:24:56,080 don't know 2180 01:24:58,550 --> 01:24:57,120 um 2181 01:25:00,790 --> 01:24:58,560 and me personally 2182 01:25:05,510 --> 01:25:00,800 i think most people know i'm pretty far 2183 01:25:09,270 --> 01:25:07,830 omega is in the house 2184 01:25:10,950 --> 01:25:09,280 lazar let's see 2185 01:25:12,550 --> 01:25:10,960 lazar must be attacked and dismissed as 2186 01:25:14,070 --> 01:25:12,560 part of the managed narrative discussion 2187 01:25:15,910 --> 01:25:14,080 reset to acknowledge unidentified 2188 01:25:17,669 --> 01:25:15,920 marital phenomena whilst deliberately 2189 01:25:19,189 --> 01:25:17,679 ignoring decades of reverse engineering 2190 01:25:20,629 --> 01:25:19,199 activity i don't know i don't know what 2191 01:25:21,010 --> 01:25:20,639 the story is 2192 01:25:22,550 --> 01:25:21,020 um 2193 01:25:24,229 --> 01:25:22,560 [Music] 2194 01:25:26,310 --> 01:25:24,239 you know 2195 01:25:27,510 --> 01:25:26,320 that's why i stayed 50 50 when i wrote 2196 01:25:29,750 --> 01:25:27,520 my 2197 01:25:32,550 --> 01:25:29,760 article about lazar but thanks to lazar 2198 01:25:34,629 --> 01:25:32,560 i made eric i met eric davis thanks to 2199 01:25:36,629 --> 01:25:34,639 lazar because we argued over the jeremy 2200 01:25:38,149 --> 01:25:36,639 corbell documentary and that's how i got 2201 01:25:41,030 --> 01:25:38,159 to know eric and 2202 01:25:43,350 --> 01:25:41,040 so we battled on facebook and then 2203 01:25:44,870 --> 01:25:43,360 became friends 2204 01:25:47,189 --> 01:25:44,880 the worst part about all that stuff in 2205 01:25:49,110 --> 01:25:47,199 dc is do functional with everything and 2206 01:25:51,189 --> 01:25:49,120 yeah i know it's it's not encouraging 2207 01:25:52,870 --> 01:25:51,199 that's why we need we need private 2208 01:25:55,510 --> 01:25:52,880 funding 2209 01:25:58,310 --> 01:25:55,520 damn it i thought joe voted for trump 2210 01:26:00,070 --> 01:25:58,320 common knowledge 2211 01:26:01,750 --> 01:26:00,080 i think most of my family voted for 2212 01:26:03,110 --> 01:26:01,760 trump i live in a part of long island 2213 01:26:04,790 --> 01:26:03,120 that's very 2214 01:26:07,110 --> 01:26:04,800 it's conservative but it's very big 2215 01:26:10,790 --> 01:26:07,120 trump trump country 2216 01:26:12,790 --> 01:26:10,800 so yeah see lazar got me to talk with 2217 01:26:16,310 --> 01:26:12,800 eric davis i became friends with eric 2218 01:26:18,390 --> 01:26:16,320 davis therefore lazar is good 2219 01:26:20,709 --> 01:26:18,400 and um when i was 2220 01:26:22,950 --> 01:26:20,719 leaning more towards lazar being true 2221 01:26:24,629 --> 01:26:22,960 the history being true eric was like i 2222 01:26:26,550 --> 01:26:24,639 just i talked about it with him on 2223 01:26:28,229 --> 01:26:26,560 facebook messenger and he's like 2224 01:26:31,189 --> 01:26:28,239 he didn't understand it but he didn't 2225 01:26:33,510 --> 01:26:31,199 block me or anything you know 2226 01:26:35,990 --> 01:26:33,520 eric has ndas 2227 01:26:37,910 --> 01:26:36,000 lou has ndas and gary nolan was on 2228 01:26:40,629 --> 01:26:37,920 twitter saying eric knows what he can 2229 01:26:44,709 --> 01:26:40,639 and can't talk about it he's very very 2230 01:26:48,950 --> 01:26:47,669 uh yeah if if somehow trump gets in 2024 2231 01:26:51,669 --> 01:26:48,960 and we get to the moon that will be his 2232 01:26:52,870 --> 01:26:51,679 slogan 2233 01:26:58,310 --> 01:26:52,880 all right 2234 01:27:01,270 --> 01:26:59,669 there are many controversies and 2235 01:27:02,950 --> 01:27:01,280 conflicting stories regarding past 2236 01:27:05,030 --> 01:27:02,960 involvement by the military intelligence 2237 01:27:06,790 --> 01:27:05,040 in other government organizations 2238 01:27:09,030 --> 01:27:06,800 related to ufo phenomena and within the 2239 01:27:10,709 --> 01:27:09,040 ufo research community perhaps some of 2240 01:27:13,350 --> 01:27:10,719 those matters will be clarified to some 2241 01:27:15,669 --> 01:27:13,360 degree in the next few years 2242 01:27:17,189 --> 01:27:15,679 it talks about the inspector general 2243 01:27:18,709 --> 01:27:17,199 evaluation 2244 01:27:20,629 --> 01:27:18,719 related to the dod and how they've 2245 01:27:23,110 --> 01:27:20,639 handled uap and 2246 01:27:26,070 --> 01:27:23,120 i will i will get my 2247 01:27:27,669 --> 01:27:26,080 danish ian 70 000 word i'm probably not 2248 01:27:29,590 --> 01:27:27,679 going to worry about adding audio to 2249 01:27:31,270 --> 01:27:29,600 audio to it it's just too much i can do 2250 01:27:32,629 --> 01:27:31,280 a video but i have to pick and choose 2251 01:27:33,990 --> 01:27:32,639 because seventy thousand words is so 2252 01:27:35,510 --> 01:27:34,000 ridiculous 2253 01:27:37,510 --> 01:27:35,520 um and i know we haven't heard from 2254 01:27:38,390 --> 01:27:37,520 sheen in a while i don't know what he's 2255 01:27:40,070 --> 01:27:38,400 up to 2256 01:27:42,070 --> 01:27:40,080 um some of the stuff he says in there i 2257 01:27:43,510 --> 01:27:42,080 disagree with but 2258 01:27:45,270 --> 01:27:43,520 then he talks about 2259 01:27:47,510 --> 01:27:45,280 things have not been little has been 2260 01:27:49,110 --> 01:27:47,520 publicly revealed about the evaluation 2261 01:27:51,030 --> 01:27:49,120 by the ig 2262 01:27:52,870 --> 01:27:51,040 some of it and i read you know some of 2263 01:27:54,550 --> 01:27:52,880 it was obtained by john greenwald i read 2264 01:27:56,229 --> 01:27:54,560 it there's really not a lot of insight 2265 01:27:57,990 --> 01:27:56,239 there's not a lot of insight there and 2266 01:28:00,229 --> 01:27:58,000 he shows some of the stuff greenwald was 2267 01:28:01,830 --> 01:28:00,239 able to get with foia but there's it's 2268 01:28:03,510 --> 01:28:01,840 there's not much going on there we don't 2269 01:28:05,110 --> 01:28:03,520 know what they could how long it's gonna 2270 01:28:06,470 --> 01:28:05,120 take what they're gonna what they're 2271 01:28:08,950 --> 01:28:06,480 focusing on 2272 01:28:10,709 --> 01:28:08,960 um just best to forget about it for now 2273 01:28:12,950 --> 01:28:10,719 um and then hopefully one day they say 2274 01:28:15,189 --> 01:28:12,960 guess what we have we have a result and 2275 01:28:19,430 --> 01:28:15,199 hopefully we get to see what what their 2276 01:28:24,149 --> 01:28:21,590 and 2277 01:28:25,830 --> 01:28:24,159 what is 70 000 omega point did i just 2278 01:28:27,510 --> 01:28:25,840 say 70 000 2279 01:28:28,950 --> 01:28:27,520 the ambiguous utterances of the director 2280 01:28:31,110 --> 01:28:28,960 of national and let's here we go so he 2281 01:28:33,430 --> 01:28:31,120 talks about our little hanes and part 2282 01:28:36,110 --> 01:28:33,440 talking about extraterrestrial maybe 2283 01:28:39,189 --> 01:28:36,120 maybe it comes extraterrestrial 2284 01:28:41,110 --> 01:28:39,199 extraterrestrially and being um and i 2285 01:28:43,110 --> 01:28:41,120 tweeted about this and how i was like i 2286 01:28:45,590 --> 01:28:43,120 don't know how julian barnes the new 2287 01:28:47,229 --> 01:28:45,600 york times reporter came up with how 2288 01:28:50,870 --> 01:28:47,239 avril what she meant by 2289 01:28:52,229 --> 01:28:50,880 extraterrestrially and so dean 2290 01:28:53,750 --> 01:28:52,239 um 2291 01:28:56,950 --> 01:28:53,760 talked about that and he says on this 2292 01:28:58,950 --> 01:28:56,960 topic of life out there you know he asks 2293 01:29:00,550 --> 01:28:58,960 haynes about the report back in june 2294 01:29:03,030 --> 01:29:00,560 25th 2295 01:29:04,629 --> 01:29:03,040 bni report and she says i mean i think 2296 01:29:06,629 --> 01:29:04,639 the bottom line is we don't understand 2297 01:29:08,310 --> 01:29:06,639 everything we're seeing after outlining 2298 01:29:11,030 --> 01:29:08,320 several categories 2299 01:29:15,350 --> 01:29:11,040 of more or less prosaic possibility 2300 01:29:17,030 --> 01:29:15,360 possible causes for some uap incidents 2301 01:29:18,790 --> 01:29:17,040 and then the inputs including natural 2302 01:29:19,990 --> 01:29:18,800 phenomena in parentheses anyway sheen 2303 01:29:21,510 --> 01:29:20,000 concluded 2304 01:29:23,350 --> 01:29:21,520 but of course there's always the 2305 01:29:25,990 --> 01:29:23,360 question of is there something else that 2306 01:29:28,550 --> 01:29:26,000 we simply do not understand that might 2307 01:29:30,550 --> 01:29:28,560 come extraterrestrially 2308 01:29:32,790 --> 01:29:30,560 so then on the 24th 2309 01:29:34,229 --> 01:29:32,800 of november julian barnes with the new 2310 01:29:36,830 --> 01:29:34,239 york times who's wrote some written some 2311 01:29:40,070 --> 01:29:36,840 negative articles on 2312 01:29:42,149 --> 01:29:40,080 ufos he wrote about that and he says ms 2313 01:29:44,229 --> 01:29:42,159 hayne's extraterrestrial remark was not 2314 01:29:46,629 --> 01:29:44,239 necessarily referring to space aliens 2315 01:29:48,870 --> 01:29:46,639 but rather more pedestrian explanations 2316 01:29:51,110 --> 01:29:48,880 such as meteors and solar flares that 2317 01:29:54,629 --> 01:29:51,120 could impact flight safety issues which 2318 01:29:56,070 --> 01:29:54,639 i thought was nonsense and omega pointed 2319 01:29:57,510 --> 01:29:56,080 out you know she's basically saying 2320 01:29:59,270 --> 01:29:57,520 there are certain things 2321 01:30:01,669 --> 01:29:59,280 you don't understand like really you 2322 01:30:03,590 --> 01:30:01,679 don't understand meteors or solar flares 2323 01:30:05,350 --> 01:30:03,600 so 2324 01:30:07,110 --> 01:30:05,360 well yeah there's no explanation of 2325 01:30:09,990 --> 01:30:07,120 where he came where julian barnes came 2326 01:30:11,990 --> 01:30:10,000 up with that he's interpreting um 2327 01:30:14,149 --> 01:30:12,000 haynes's remark and saying it's about 2328 01:30:15,510 --> 01:30:14,159 meteors and solar flares did you have a 2329 01:30:18,629 --> 01:30:15,520 source that told you that did you talk 2330 01:30:20,790 --> 01:30:18,639 to haynes nope doesn't explain it so 2331 01:30:23,590 --> 01:30:20,800 green says i have 2332 01:30:25,110 --> 01:30:23,600 twice queried the od and i national 2333 01:30:26,870 --> 01:30:25,120 director of national intelligence as to 2334 01:30:29,030 --> 01:30:26,880 whether the new york times was correct 2335 01:30:31,669 --> 01:30:29,040 to suggest that haines twice used the 2336 01:30:33,430 --> 01:30:31,679 term we don't understand to refer to 2337 01:30:37,189 --> 01:30:33,440 certain phenomena that she suggested 2338 01:30:42,310 --> 01:30:37,199 might have origin extraterrestrial she 2339 01:30:45,350 --> 01:30:43,590 the experts in the intelligence 2340 01:30:47,830 --> 01:30:45,360 community seeking to analyze certain 2341 01:30:49,110 --> 01:30:47,840 sensor data or images do not understand 2342 01:30:50,790 --> 01:30:49,120 basically what she meant is we don't 2343 01:30:52,790 --> 01:30:50,800 understand that there's they're seeing 2344 01:30:54,790 --> 01:30:52,800 meteors and solar flares 2345 01:30:56,870 --> 01:30:54,800 and so dean wrote to the director of 2346 01:30:59,830 --> 01:30:56,880 national intelligence to clarify that 2347 01:31:00,950 --> 01:30:59,840 twice received no reply he wrote to 2348 01:31:03,189 --> 01:31:00,960 barnes 2349 01:31:05,669 --> 01:31:03,199 and he said he says i have also asked mr 2350 01:31:07,910 --> 01:31:05,679 barnes if he had any authority for the 2351 01:31:09,910 --> 01:31:07,920 interpretive assertion as to what was in 2352 01:31:12,550 --> 01:31:09,920 director haynes's mind when she spoke of 2353 01:31:14,629 --> 01:31:12,560 extraterrestrial things not understood 2354 01:31:16,470 --> 01:31:14,639 julian barnes replied by email 2355 01:31:18,629 --> 01:31:16,480 the sentence explaining what director 2356 01:31:21,270 --> 01:31:18,639 haines meant was based on sound 2357 01:31:22,390 --> 01:31:21,280 reporting it accurately reflects to her 2358 01:31:24,070 --> 01:31:22,400 thinking 2359 01:31:26,870 --> 01:31:24,080 but he still doesn't explain how he got 2360 01:31:29,270 --> 01:31:26,880 that information no source no quote from 2361 01:31:30,470 --> 01:31:29,280 her no conversation with her so i just 2362 01:31:32,709 --> 01:31:30,480 don't trust him i'm sorry that's 2363 01:31:34,550 --> 01:31:32,719 ridiculous how do you what's it sorry 2364 01:31:35,990 --> 01:31:34,560 it's like how dare you question my 2365 01:31:37,669 --> 01:31:36,000 reporting 2366 01:31:39,910 --> 01:31:37,679 and that is it 2367 01:31:41,590 --> 01:31:39,920 and then he puts the official oh so dean 2368 01:31:43,189 --> 01:31:41,600 actually put the official language too 2369 01:31:48,070 --> 01:31:43,199 so 2370 01:31:49,510 --> 01:31:48,080 i took out all the numbers which 2371 01:31:51,590 --> 01:31:49,520 probably didn't need to do because dean 2372 01:31:54,550 --> 01:31:51,600 already did this 2373 01:31:55,830 --> 01:31:54,560 anyway it's also on my blog 2374 01:31:58,790 --> 01:31:55,840 that's it 2375 01:32:00,310 --> 01:31:58,800 not a fan of sheen omega what's 70 000 2376 01:32:02,149 --> 01:32:00,320 did i say something about 70 000 i 2377 01:32:03,189 --> 01:32:02,159 already forgot about 2378 01:32:05,350 --> 01:32:03,199 um 2379 01:32:06,870 --> 01:32:05,360 not a fan of sheen and i am an old time 2380 01:32:08,470 --> 01:32:06,880 liberal um 2381 01:32:11,350 --> 01:32:08,480 yeah there are people are not fans of 2382 01:32:15,030 --> 01:32:13,189 i like 2383 01:32:17,750 --> 01:32:15,040 i don't know if it was worth doing 70 2384 01:32:18,629 --> 01:32:17,760 000 words of a danny sheehan transcript 2385 01:32:21,830 --> 01:32:18,639 but 2386 01:32:23,750 --> 01:32:21,840 um it's there i'll put it up 2387 01:32:26,950 --> 01:32:23,760 um it's a lot of it's repetitive it's 2388 01:32:28,629 --> 01:32:26,960 interviews lectures a lecture i attended 2389 01:32:31,270 --> 01:32:28,639 a little mini interview i did with him 2390 01:32:32,790 --> 01:32:31,280 at um 2391 01:32:35,350 --> 01:32:32,800 ufo 2392 01:32:40,629 --> 01:32:35,360 megacon in laughlin 2393 01:32:44,470 --> 01:32:43,110 folks new to my channel my 2394 01:32:47,350 --> 01:32:44,480 blog is 2395 01:32:49,910 --> 01:32:47,360 ufojoe.net 2396 01:32:52,709 --> 01:32:49,920 my twitter for people who dare to go on 2397 01:32:53,669 --> 01:32:52,719 twitter is at the ufo joe 2398 01:32:55,750 --> 01:32:53,679 um 2399 01:32:57,510 --> 01:32:55,760 paypal check out my twitter i do a lot 2400 01:33:01,189 --> 01:32:57,520 of twitter stuff 2401 01:33:03,270 --> 01:33:01,199 in the blog i put up four transcripts of 2402 01:33:04,870 --> 01:33:03,280 kelleher knapp lakatsky combination of 2403 01:33:05,750 --> 01:33:04,880 those three 2404 01:33:07,030 --> 01:33:05,760 and 2405 01:33:08,390 --> 01:33:07,040 i haven't i think i'm gonna do instead 2406 01:33:11,189 --> 01:33:08,400 of i'm gonna do more 2407 01:33:12,709 --> 01:33:11,199 notes and cliff notes and some quotes 2408 01:33:14,709 --> 01:33:12,719 sometimes somebody does a quote it's too 2409 01:33:16,070 --> 01:33:14,719 good for me to just paraphrase 2410 01:33:20,790 --> 01:33:16,080 paraphrase so 2411 01:33:24,470 --> 01:33:23,030 the power cast which was nothing i'm not 2412 01:33:26,390 --> 01:33:24,480 a lot new but there was something new i 2413 01:33:28,470 --> 01:33:26,400 wanted i want to definitely paraphrase 2414 01:33:31,590 --> 01:33:28,480 paraphrase some of it and then also 2415 01:33:34,470 --> 01:33:31,600 quote um so 2416 01:33:36,790 --> 01:33:34,480 that is my live stream 2417 01:33:38,410 --> 01:33:36,800 you guys stayed here 2418 01:33:40,470 --> 01:33:38,420 i appreciate that um 2419 01:33:42,149 --> 01:33:40,480 [Music] 2420 01:33:43,990 --> 01:33:42,159 and 2421 01:33:45,669 --> 01:33:44,000 let's see 2422 01:33:47,750 --> 01:33:45,679 do you plan on doing any future zoom 2423 01:33:49,110 --> 01:33:47,760 calls i suspect any new ones will be 2424 01:33:51,750 --> 01:33:49,120 without 2425 01:33:54,229 --> 01:33:51,760 sorry i don't know what do you mean 2426 01:33:56,870 --> 01:33:54,239 explain you mean zoom's like being a 2427 01:34:00,950 --> 01:33:56,880 being a guest on a show 2428 01:34:03,510 --> 01:34:00,960 no marco i have not but i actually 2429 01:34:05,350 --> 01:34:03,520 i have but not really officially with a 2430 01:34:08,550 --> 01:34:05,360 date so i need to give him a date and 2431 01:34:10,070 --> 01:34:08,560 see if he says yes um 2432 01:34:11,590 --> 01:34:10,080 so yes 2433 01:34:14,390 --> 01:34:11,600 kind of 2434 01:34:18,790 --> 01:34:16,629 you mean dave scott having me on his 2435 01:34:21,270 --> 01:34:18,800 show he if that's what you're asking 2436 01:34:23,110 --> 01:34:21,280 um he hasn't invited me on his show in a 2437 01:34:24,709 --> 01:34:23,120 really long time so 2438 01:34:27,590 --> 01:34:24,719 if that's what you're asking i probably 2439 01:34:29,189 --> 01:34:27,600 will not be on his show 2440 01:34:30,550 --> 01:34:29,199 i've done some smaller shows which i 2441 01:34:32,709 --> 01:34:30,560 need to link to 2442 01:34:33,990 --> 01:34:32,719 i did a show i forget the name of the 2443 01:34:35,510 --> 01:34:34,000 show i did it last week and then i have 2444 01:34:37,270 --> 01:34:35,520 to do another show yeah 2445 01:34:39,830 --> 01:34:37,280 dave hasn't asked me to be on a show in 2446 01:34:41,510 --> 01:34:39,840 a very long time so i don't know why but 2447 01:34:43,189 --> 01:34:41,520 it's like 2448 01:34:44,950 --> 01:34:43,199 you know i'm trying to keep up with 2449 01:34:46,390 --> 01:34:44,960 everything and i'm not doing a great job 2450 01:34:48,070 --> 01:34:46,400 so it's my own stuff i'm trying to get 2451 01:34:50,470 --> 01:34:48,080 through so it's hard to keep up and then 2452 01:34:51,910 --> 01:34:50,480 also do interviews and i do get requests 2453 01:34:54,470 --> 01:34:51,920 and some people have not responded to i 2454 01:34:56,629 --> 01:34:54,480 get a lot of requests and dms are backed 2455 01:34:59,350 --> 01:34:56,639 up so 2456 01:35:01,109 --> 01:34:59,360 i do owe somebody one of my patrons um 2457 01:35:04,790 --> 01:35:01,119 an interview which i need to do 2458 01:35:06,790 --> 01:35:04,800 the interview i did recently was 2459 01:35:09,270 --> 01:35:06,800 actually i could link to it here it was 2460 01:35:11,750 --> 01:35:09,280 some of it was personal stuff 2461 01:35:13,270 --> 01:35:11,760 it was my job and that's what we started 2462 01:35:15,750 --> 01:35:13,280 off talking about it was a little 2463 01:35:18,790 --> 01:35:15,760 different than my normal interviews 2464 01:35:21,590 --> 01:35:18,800 and it's on spotify which i really 2465 01:35:23,030 --> 01:35:21,600 do not like it's the worst thing 2466 01:35:26,149 --> 01:35:23,040 um 2467 01:35:28,070 --> 01:35:26,159 but jeff kingsbury 2468 01:35:30,070 --> 01:35:28,080 did an interview with me and i'll just 2469 01:35:31,590 --> 01:35:30,080 link to it in the comments i'll i need 2470 01:35:35,910 --> 01:35:31,600 to put it on twitter 2471 01:35:40,709 --> 01:35:38,070 yeah time is limited i mean i can do 2472 01:35:43,270 --> 01:35:40,719 better with my time management as always 2473 01:35:44,870 --> 01:35:43,280 but anyway so that's the link 2474 01:35:46,390 --> 01:35:44,880 i don't know if that'll even work what 2475 01:35:49,030 --> 01:35:46,400 kind of link is that all right guys i'm 2476 01:35:50,550 --> 01:35:49,040 gonna go uh thanks for being here 2477 01:35:51,850 --> 01:35:50,560 thanks for the questions thanks for 2478 01:35:53,750 --> 01:35:51,860 listening um 2479 01:35:55,990 --> 01:35:53,760 [Music] 2480 01:35:57,910 --> 01:35:56,000 trying to think interviews coming up in 2481 01:35:58,870 --> 01:35:57,920 the next couple of months before that i 2482 01:36:01,189 --> 01:35:58,880 just got to figure out who the heck i 2483 01:36:02,149 --> 01:36:01,199 want to interview um 2484 01:36:04,070 --> 01:36:02,159 and 2485 01:36:06,390 --> 01:36:04,080 as always on twitter 2486 01:36:08,950 --> 01:36:06,400 i will see you guys next time and if 2487 01:36:10,470 --> 01:36:08,960 you're not on twitter i'll see you here 2488 01:36:14,229 --> 01:36:10,480 thanks for listening